Actual Instrument Versus Simulated Instrument

MFT1Air

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OK, this question might be included in the "paying it forward" category, but I'm inquirying anyway.

Actual versus simulated.

Most of my instrument training is being flown at night from 10pm to 2am. In these conditions, it's usually a moon free, hazy, but cloud free environment with no visual cues to ascertain visual perspectives. (Texas - a long way between cities)

What is this time logged as if you're NEVER utilizing VFR until approach/landing? Is this actual or simulated?
 
In 1984, FAA Legal issued the "Moonless Night" opinion. According to the opinon,

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"Actual" instrument flight conditions occur when some outside conditions make it necessary for the pilot to use the aircraft instruments in order to maintain adequate control over the aircraft.
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It goes on to say that conditions similar to those you describe, if they result in the inability to keep the shiny side up without using the instruments (in order to aviate, not navigate) may be considered flight in actual. The opinion is often the start, not the end of the arguments on the question. Here is the portion of the letter that deals with the question. Take it as you wish.

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November 7, 1984
Mr. Joseph P. Carr

Dear Mr. Carr:
This is in response to your letter asking questions about instrument flight time.
First, you ask for an interpretation of Section 61.51(c)(4) of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) regarding the logging of instrument flight time. You ask whether, for instance, a flight over the ocean on a moonless night without a discernible horizon could be logged as actual instrument flight time.

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As you know, Section 61.51(c)(4) provides rules for the logging of instrument flight time which may be used to meet the requirements of a certificate or rating, or to meet the recent flight experience requirements of Part 61. That section provides in part, that a pilot may log as instrument flight time only that time during which he or she operates the aircraft solely by reference to instruments, under actual (instrument meteorological conditions (imc)) or simulated instrument flight conditions. "Simulated" instrument conditions occur when the pilot's vision outside of the aircraft is intentionally restricted, such as by a hood or goggles. "Actual" instrument flight conditions occur when some outside conditions make it necessary for the pilot to use the aircraft instruments in order to maintain adequate control over the aircraft. Typically, these conditions involve adverse weather conditions.

To answer your first question, actual instrument conditions may occur in the case you described a moonless night over the ocean with no discernible horizon, if use of the instruments is necessary to maintain adequate control over the aircraft. The determination as to whether flight by reference to instruments is necessary is somewhat subjective and based in part on the sound judgment of the pilot. Note that, under Section 61.51(b)(3), the pilot must log the conditions of the flight. The log should include the reasons for determining that the flight was under actual instrument conditions in case the pilot later would be called on to prove that the actual instrument flight time logged was legitimate.

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Sincerely,
/s/
John H. Cassady
Assistant Chief counsel
Regulations and Enforcement Division
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Thanks. My safety pilot agreed with the thought, but she didn't have the documented support to back her perspective. She filed an IFR flight plan which took us over two VORs close to the Gulf of Mexico enroute to our destination. It was pitch black with haze that severely occluded the horizon. I got a lesson for sure not being able to discern the horizon visually, so I stayed head in the cockpit for 90% of the trip. It was scary not being able to distinguish water from land or sky from ground with the exception of the HSI/turn and bank, sounds of the engines, etc. Intimidating to say the least. . .but probably the best flight I've had in a very long time.
 
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