Acronyms and Mnemonics
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c172captain
Well-Known Member
DAY VFR
G
O
O
S
E
A
C
A
T
NIGHT VFR
A
P
E
S
or
F
L
A
P
S
I think GRABCARD is universal.
Rubber Boots + Muddy House= Muddy Boots
RB+MH=MB, think.... who the hell uses NDBs anyways
G
O
O
S
E
A
C
A
T
NIGHT VFR
A
P
E
S
or
F
L
A
P
S
I think GRABCARD is universal.
Rubber Boots + Muddy House= Muddy Boots
RB+MH=MB, think.... who the hell uses NDBs anyways
c172captain
Well-Known Member
How's a student gonna memorize somethin they can barely pronouce?
Wait... after further investigation... is it pronounced Atom's flea? maybe?
escapepilot
Well-Known Member
Day VFR
T Tachometer
O Oil Temperature Guage
M Magnetic Direction Indicator (compass)
A Altimeter
T Temperature Guage (if water cooled engine)
O Oil Temperature Guage
F Fuel Guage
L Landing Gear Position Indicator (if applicable)
A Airspeed Indicator
M Manifold Pressure Guage (if altitude engine)
E ELT
S Seatbelts
Night VFR = FLAPS
I swear I've forgetten more than I currently remember.
T Tachometer
O Oil Temperature Guage
M Magnetic Direction Indicator (compass)
A Altimeter
T Temperature Guage (if water cooled engine)
O Oil Temperature Guage
F Fuel Guage
L Landing Gear Position Indicator (if applicable)
A Airspeed Indicator
M Manifold Pressure Guage (if altitude engine)
E ELT
S Seatbelts
Night VFR = FLAPS
I swear I've forgetten more than I currently remember.
X1, but the NDB has one little change. MH+youR Beer=MB
R
Roger, Roger
Guest
For compass lead/lag-UNOS
Undershoot
North
Overshoot
South
GRABCARD for IFR, TOMATO FLAMES for day VFR, FLAPS for night VFR.
Required inspections-AV1ATE-A
Annual
VOR
100 hour
Altimeter/Static
Transponder
ELT
ADs
Required paperwork in aircraft-AROW
Airworthiness (remember, this one has to be on top!)
Registration
Operating limitations (POH, AFM, and/or placards, as appropriate)
Weight and balance information
Undershoot
North
Overshoot
South
GRABCARD for IFR, TOMATO FLAMES for day VFR, FLAPS for night VFR.
Required inspections-AV1ATE-A
Annual
VOR
100 hour
Altimeter/Static
Transponder
ELT
ADs
Required paperwork in aircraft-AROW
Airworthiness (remember, this one has to be on top!)
Registration
Operating limitations (POH, AFM, and/or placards, as appropriate)
Weight and balance information
R
Roger, Roger
Guest
C'mon mini...are you trying to tell us you weren't an enormous nerd when you were a CFI?
I used them....then I found the light. (God, I sound like what I'd imagine Barry Bonds to sound like in 10 years...) I don't find a need for the acronyms and mnemonics anymore. I have found other ways to teach the required equipment types, reporting points, etc. I'm just not a fan of them anymore.
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-mini
pwapilot
Well-Known Member
I don't mean hijack the thread with a debate on the merits of mnemonics (yes, they are helpful in some instances), but I fail to see value in memorizing ones like "TOMATO FLAMES." I had one instructor tell me about this, but it seems to me that the only time you would need to be concerned with minimum equipment is when you have time to open up a copy of the FARs -- no making errors if you look it up right in 91.205 (I personally found it more useful to memorize the section number 
). This also teaches the student how to use and understand the regulations right from the FARs. Do any of you CFIs have reasons for teaching such mnemonics that I may be overlooking, or is it mostly an expectation of your local DPEs to know minimum equipment just as well as something like Vg?
). This also teaches the student how to use and understand the regulations right from the FARs. Do any of you CFIs have reasons for teaching such mnemonics that I may be overlooking, or is it mostly an expectation of your local DPEs to know minimum equipment just as well as something like Vg?
Hckey2477
Well-Known Member
They helped me quite a bit through training. I used them all the time.
(day vfr, night + ifr)
ATOMATOEFLAMES
FLAPS
GRABCARDD
(magnetic compass errors)
VDMONA
Variation
Deviation
Magnetic dip
Osc.
Norhterly turning errors
Acceleration errors
Required Reports (DRUMS)
Deviations
Requested
Unforecast wx
malfunctions
safety of flight
Special Use and Other Airspace (MTVPANT), (WARMPC)
MH+RB=MB (my hot red b*lls make babies)
and of course (ARROW) for docs.
DPBS (dog poop bear Sh..) for VOR Checks
Date, place, bearing, signature.
ECHO Airspace (SETADOG)
Surface
Extension
Transition
Airway
Domestic
Offshore
God (above FL600)
Characteristics of a Critique (FATCOWS)
Flexible
Acceptable
Thoughtful
Comprehensive
Objective
Well organized
Specific
Inspecitions (AVIATES)
Illusions (ICEFLAGGS)
required/non-required reporting
AMARVELOUS D VFR 500
I have a couple more but im tired. LOL I know I am a dork.
(day vfr, night + ifr)
ATOMATOEFLAMES
FLAPS
GRABCARDD
(magnetic compass errors)
VDMONA
Variation
Deviation
Magnetic dip
Osc.
Norhterly turning errors
Acceleration errors
Required Reports (DRUMS)
Deviations
Requested
Unforecast wx
malfunctions
safety of flight
Special Use and Other Airspace (MTVPANT), (WARMPC)
MH+RB=MB (my hot red b*lls make babies)
and of course (ARROW) for docs.
DPBS (dog poop bear Sh..) for VOR Checks
Date, place, bearing, signature.
ECHO Airspace (SETADOG)
Surface
Extension
Transition
Airway
Domestic
Offshore
God (above FL600)
Characteristics of a Critique (FATCOWS)
Flexible
Acceptable
Thoughtful
Comprehensive
Objective
Well organized
Specific
Inspecitions (AVIATES)
Illusions (ICEFLAGGS)
required/non-required reporting
AMARVELOUS D VFR 500
I have a couple more but im tired. LOL I know I am a dork.
SuperCubRick
Well-Known Member
Not an instructor, yet, but thought I'd add
For a run-up check
Controls free & correct
Instruments check (oil temp, pressure, vaccum, fuel pressure)
Gas (left, right or both, check fuel gauges)
Altimeter set - within +/- 75 ft of field elevation
Runup (check engine instruments again, mag check, carb heat, prop cycle)
Radios set for navigation/comm facilities being used.
Trim for takeoff
Interior inspection, seat belts on, doors locked
Primer locked
Pump (fuel pump on if required)
Flaps as required
For a run-up check
Controls free & correct
Instruments check (oil temp, pressure, vaccum, fuel pressure)
Gas (left, right or both, check fuel gauges)
Altimeter set - within +/- 75 ft of field elevation
Runup (check engine instruments again, mag check, carb heat, prop cycle)
Radios set for navigation/comm facilities being used.
Trim for takeoff
Interior inspection, seat belts on, doors locked
Primer locked
Pump (fuel pump on if required)
Flaps as required
Exactly.I don't mean hijack the thread with a debate on the merits of mnemonics (yes, they are helpful in some instances), but I fail to see value in memorizing ones like "TOMATO FLAMES." I had one instructor tell me about this, but it seems to me that the only time you would need to be concerned with minimum equipment is when you have time to open up a copy of the FARs -- no making errors if you look it up right in 91.205 (I personally found it more useful to memorize the section number
Pretty much a DPE thing. Though in reality it's testing the lowest level of learning. Not that rote doesn't have it's place (limitations & memory items, for sure), but I'd like to see students tested on greater levels than just rote.
-mini
KC Jake
Well-Known Member
I don't mean hijack the thread with a debate on the merits of mnemonics (yes, they are helpful in some instances), but I fail to see value in memorizing ones like "TOMATO FLAMES." I had one instructor tell me about this, but it seems to me that the only time you would need to be concerned with minimum equipment is when you have time to open up a copy of the FARs -- no making errors if you look it up right in 91.205 (I personally found it more useful to memorize the section number
Just because someone knows the mnemonic doesn't mean they don't know the reg. I always teach my students that TOMATOFLAMES is 91.205(b)...FLAPS is (c)...etc. The mnemonics are for checkrides. Even so, during checkrides, if the examiner asked me about required day VFR equipment, I would name a few, then say something about TOMATOFLAMES, and ask if he wanted me to open 91.205.