Acronym Help
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mtsu_av8er
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What is the acronym for required equipment for VFR flight day and night?
I know it's TOMATO....something. Massive brain fart. Please pull the virtual finger!!
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FLAMES!!!!
What is the acronym for required equipment for VFR flight day and night?
I know it's TOMATO....something. Massive brain fart. Please pull the virtual finger!!
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FLAMES!!!!
ready2fly
Well-Known Member
THANKS! That's it!
Day:
Tachometer
Oil Pressure
Mag Compass
Altimeter
Temperature Guage
Oil Temperature
Anti-Collision Light
Fuel Quantity Indicator(s)
Landing Gear Position Lights
Airspeed Indicator
Manifold Pressure
ELT
Seatbelts/shoulder harnesses
Night:
Fuses (spare)
Landing light (for hire)
Anti-collision light
Position Lights (nav lights)
Source of power (generator/altenator)
Whew! I feel MUCH better!!
Day:
Tachometer
Oil Pressure
Mag Compass
Altimeter
Temperature Guage
Oil Temperature
Anti-Collision Light
Fuel Quantity Indicator(s)
Landing Gear Position Lights
Airspeed Indicator
Manifold Pressure
ELT
Seatbelts/shoulder harnesses
Night:
Fuses (spare)
Landing light (for hire)
Anti-collision light
Position Lights (nav lights)
Source of power (generator/altenator)
Whew! I feel MUCH better!!
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
Why? It's pretty worthless.
I ran a quiz in a couple of forums (not this one) a while back. People who memorized TOMATO FLAMES or GOOSE A Cat (the other one day VFR) were much more likely to get the answer wrong than those who didn't.
I ran a quiz in a couple of forums (not this one) a while back. People who memorized TOMATO FLAMES or GOOSE A Cat (the other one day VFR) were much more likely to get the answer wrong than those who didn't.
mtsu_av8er
Well-Known Member
I tell people to use whatever they can to remember something...associate it with lawnmower parts if you have to!!!
Jeff_S_KDTW
New Member
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Why? It's pretty worthless.
I ran a quiz in a couple of forums (not this one) a while back. People who memorized TOMATO FLAMES or GOOSE A Cat (the other one day VFR) were much more likely to get the answer wrong than those who didn't.
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Why? It's pretty worthless.
I ran a quiz in a couple of forums (not this one) a while back. People who memorized TOMATO FLAMES or GOOSE A Cat (the other one day VFR) were much more likely to get the answer wrong than those who didn't.
[/ QUOTE ]I wonder who got it right?
stuckingfk
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ready2fly,
If you were to fly a plane with an MEL and certified after 1996 (not sure exact date), it would be MATOMATOFLAMESFLAPS. The M being the MEL and the A being the anti-collision light that must be on. So the new Cirrus's would fall under that part.
If you were to fly a plane with an MEL and certified after 1996 (not sure exact date), it would be MATOMATOFLAMESFLAPS. The M being the MEL and the A being the anti-collision light that must be on. So the new Cirrus's would fall under that part.
MidlifeFlyer
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Why? It's pretty worthless.
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Helps me. That's all that matters.
[/ QUOTE ]Quiz time. Of course, given the context, you probably already know the answer so it should be easy.
1. What kind of airplane do you usually fly? Assume it has no MEL.
2. You go out to the airplane (the on eyou usually fly) one morning for a day VFR flight. It's CAVU with calm winds. During your preflight inspection, you find that the stall warning horn isn't working. Assuming that you feel that it is perfectly safe to fly without it, from solely an FAR standpoint, may you fly the airplane? Why or why not? If not, what do you need to do to make it okay?
When I originally ran this, I was surprised how many got it wrong and amazed at the number of CFIs who got it wrong.
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Why? It's pretty worthless.
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Helps me. That's all that matters.
[/ QUOTE ]Quiz time. Of course, given the context, you probably already know the answer so it should be easy.
1. What kind of airplane do you usually fly? Assume it has no MEL.
2. You go out to the airplane (the on eyou usually fly) one morning for a day VFR flight. It's CAVU with calm winds. During your preflight inspection, you find that the stall warning horn isn't working. Assuming that you feel that it is perfectly safe to fly without it, from solely an FAR standpoint, may you fly the airplane? Why or why not? If not, what do you need to do to make it okay?
When I originally ran this, I was surprised how many got it wrong and amazed at the number of CFIs who got it wrong.
hammer
New Member
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THANKS! That's it!
Day:
Tachometer -
Oil Pressure -
Mag Compass -
Altimeter -
Temperature Guage -
Oil Temperature -
Anti-Collision Light -
Fuel Quantity Indicator(s) -
Landing Gear Position Lights -
Airspeed Indicator -
Manifold Pressure -
ELT
Seatbelts/shoulder harnesses
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Also need pproved flotation gear and at least one pyrotechnic signaling device if the aircraft is being used for hire over water and beyond power off gliding distance from shore. See FAR91.205.b(12).
THANKS! That's it!
Day:
Tachometer -
Oil Pressure -
Mag Compass -
Altimeter -
Temperature Guage -
Oil Temperature -
Anti-Collision Light -
Fuel Quantity Indicator(s) -
Landing Gear Position Lights -
Airspeed Indicator -
Manifold Pressure -
ELT
Seatbelts/shoulder harnesses
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Also need pproved flotation gear and at least one pyrotechnic signaling device if the aircraft is being used for hire over water and beyond power off gliding distance from shore. See FAR91.205.b(12).
stuckingfk
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I would say you cannot fly the aircraft because of contents of 91.213(d)2. Those four things are: 1)Part of VFR Type Certification, 2)Kinds of Operation Equipment List 3)91.205 4)Required by an AD
I am positive the stall warning horn falls under number 2, and that it is required to be there.
I am positive the stall warning horn falls under number 2, and that it is required to be there.
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During your preflight inspection, you find that the stall warning horn isn't working.
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Out of curiosity, how do you preflight a stall warning horn? The only way I can think of is by sucking on a pneumatic stall warning opening (like on a 172) but I don't know about other aircraft types.
My answer is no, per FAR 91.213.
During your preflight inspection, you find that the stall warning horn isn't working.
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Out of curiosity, how do you preflight a stall warning horn? The only way I can think of is by sucking on a pneumatic stall warning opening (like on a 172) but I don't know about other aircraft types.
My answer is no, per FAR 91.213.
Dazzler
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There are some great acronyms that people come up with. Usually the dirtier ones are the easiest to remember!
The best I heard was for magnetic compass errors:
VD MONA
V=Variation
D=Deviation
M=Magnetic Dip Error
O=Oscillation Error
N=Northerly Turning Error
A=Acceleration Error
The best I heard was for magnetic compass errors:
VD MONA
V=Variation
D=Deviation
M=Magnetic Dip Error
O=Oscillation Error
N=Northerly Turning Error
A=Acceleration Error
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Many other types just have a tab type of switch. Just push it up, and see if the light goes on or the horn sounds (with the master on of course).
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Interesting. The Seminole that I'm flying now has (from what I understand) a squat switch on the left main gear that keeps the warning horn from going off on the ground. Guess I have to just have faith that it'll work in the air, or at least check to see that the tabs move freely (which I always do).
Many other types just have a tab type of switch. Just push it up, and see if the light goes on or the horn sounds (with the master on of course).
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Interesting. The Seminole that I'm flying now has (from what I understand) a squat switch on the left main gear that keeps the warning horn from going off on the ground. Guess I have to just have faith that it'll work in the air, or at least check to see that the tabs move freely (which I always do).
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Out of curiosity, how do you preflight a stall warning horn? The only way I can think of is by sucking on a pneumatic stall warning opening (like on a 172) but I don't know about other aircraft types.
My answer is no, per FAR 91.213.
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Yep...sucking on it. Sporty's sells a little stall horn checker doo-hickey...it just bottle that you squeeze and put it around the stall warning vane hole, and let it suck on it for you. Now...during the summer, unless a person has a craving for bugs and is taller than me, they just trust it.
Out of curiosity, how do you preflight a stall warning horn? The only way I can think of is by sucking on a pneumatic stall warning opening (like on a 172) but I don't know about other aircraft types.
My answer is no, per FAR 91.213.
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Yep...sucking on it. Sporty's sells a little stall horn checker doo-hickey...it just bottle that you squeeze and put it around the stall warning vane hole, and let it suck on it for you. Now...during the summer, unless a person has a craving for bugs and is taller than me, they just trust it.
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1. What kind of airplane do you usually fly? Assume it has no MEL.
2. You go out to the airplane (the on eyou usually fly) one morning for a day VFR flight. It's CAVU with calm winds. During your preflight inspection, you find that the stall warning horn isn't working. Assuming that you feel that it is perfectly safe to fly without it, from solely an FAR standpoint, may you fly the airplane? Why or why not? If not, what do you need to do to make it okay?
When I originally ran this, I was surprised how many got it wrong and amazed at the number of CFIs who got it wrong.
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A stall warning horn is not required equipment so you could operate the a/c without it. However...since it is equipment on the airplane that is now not working you would have to disconnect it and placard it so.
1. What kind of airplane do you usually fly? Assume it has no MEL.
2. You go out to the airplane (the on eyou usually fly) one morning for a day VFR flight. It's CAVU with calm winds. During your preflight inspection, you find that the stall warning horn isn't working. Assuming that you feel that it is perfectly safe to fly without it, from solely an FAR standpoint, may you fly the airplane? Why or why not? If not, what do you need to do to make it okay?
When I originally ran this, I was surprised how many got it wrong and amazed at the number of CFIs who got it wrong.
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A stall warning horn is not required equipment so you could operate the a/c without it. However...since it is equipment on the airplane that is now not working you would have to disconnect it and placard it so.