Accident aircraft return to service

I wouldn't have a problem flying on the United 811 747 after it was repaired. However, I would find it eerie if I was assigned the same seat as somebody who was ejected from the aircraft during the decompression and subsequently ingested into an engine.
 
MikeD said:
The original question concerned an aircraft involved in an accident being rebuilt.....a major accident like UA 811. Not someone simply dying aboard.

Now, answer that. :)
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That's what I originally thought you meant then you threw me for a loop by mentioning fatalities.

I've returned two aircraft to service after accident repairs. One had major fuselage R/R. As with any RTS, it's a safety/airworthiness concern.
 
I recently flew one of our 737-500s - (aircraft 626) that was involved in the fatal incident in El Paso where a mechanic was ingested into the right engine. It was eerie in a way thinking that "this was the airplane" but in the end, we loaded up and got out of town just like any other airplane. Interesting trivia about AC 626 is that Continental will never again dispatch that airplane into ELP. How's that for superstitious?
 
calcapt said:
I recently flew one of our 737-500s - (aircraft 626) that was involved in the fatal incident in El Paso where a mechanic was ingested into the right engine. It was eerie in a way thinking that "this was the airplane" but in the end, we loaded up and got out of town just like any other airplane. Interesting trivia about AC 626 is that Continental will never again dispatch that airplane into ELP. How's that for superstitious?
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Thats the kind of interesting/related stuff I'm getting at in this thread.

Almost reminds me of the whole "Ghost of Flt 401" thing, where reused parts from the crashed Eastern L-1011 in the Everglades were used in other company L-1011s, and people reported seeing the ghost of the deceased FE in those planes.....

I think it's be eerie to be on the UA811 747 in the same seats/rows that were ejected.
 
TUCKnTRUCK said:
Discovery had a segment on a large aircraft repair team that pretty much came to the plane and fixed it. On the show i believe they replaced the rear pressure bulkhead, and fabricated some new composites for it.

pretty crazy. Airplanes are one of those things, where it seems that if the money is right, anything can be fixed. Honestly, I have no issue with it, to me it would be like closing a sidewalk that somebody was murdered on or something like that.
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I view that as not being the same thing at all. I saw that same episode, I think. That was more along the lines of an actual R/R, albeit an expensive one. That episdoe was awesome though, and I definitely sympathized with the crane operators lifting the heavy pieces.

Roger said:
And safety wire, zip ties, and speed tape!
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trafficinsight said:
Ok ok, and silicone, RTV and B2 sealer. ;)
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:yeahthat::yeahthat:

To answer the original question, it would be kind of creepy but I would imagine the aircraft would be repaired to specs and would be safe. So it would be weird, but not something to dwell on too much. That being said, I've never been in an aircraft that was in involved in a fatal accident...or have I? :confused:
 
Call me superstitious or whatever you want... things like what CalCapt said makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. When I was driving boats for a living I always made sure there was a block of wood near the controls to knock on.

Having said all that, if the aircraft was repaired to meet standards - it shouldn't be a problem. It just might feel like some weird juju. That's all.
 
MikeD said:
Thats the kind of interesting/related stuff I'm getting at in this thread.

Almost reminds me of the whole "Ghost of Flt 401" thing, where reused parts from the crashed Eastern L-1011 in the Everglades were used in other company L-1011s, and people reported seeing the ghost of the deceased FE in those planes.....

I think it's be eerie to be on the UA811 747 in the same seats/rows that were ejected.
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That would totally give me the heebie jeebies. :eek:
 
Wether or not people died, to ground a plane because of an incident or accident that can be repaired is stupid.
 
trafficinsight said:
Ok ok, and silicone, RTV and B2 sealer. ;)
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I thought it was properly having all the I's dotted and T's crossed in the logs that made an airplane airworthy...never mind if the wing is held on by tape...

About the main question on the thread: would we ride a train that ran someone over, or continue drive a car that had been involved in a fatal accident?
 
calcapt said:
I recently flew one of our 737-500s - (aircraft 626) that was involved in the fatal incident in El Paso where a mechanic was ingested into the right engine. It was eerie in a way thinking that "this was the airplane" but in the end, we loaded up and got out of town just like any other airplane. Interesting trivia about AC 626 is that Continental will never again dispatch that airplane into ELP. How's that for superstitious?
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Continental is VERY superstitious. No row 13. I'm curious now--do any other airlines NOT have a row "13?"

BTW, Bill, I love your new avatar....:)
 
Qgar said:
Continental is VERY superstitious. No row 13. I'm curious now--do any other airlines NOT have a row "13?"

BTW, Bill, I love your new avatar....:)
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"Most hotels don't have a 14th floor, but those people on the 14th floor know what floor they're really on..."
 
You don't junk a car just because it's been in a fender bender, and you shouldn't send an airplane to the salvage yard if it can be repaired.

One of the airplanes in the flying club I used to belong to had a gear up incident. And no, it wasn't me. We sold it to someone who fixed it and is flying it now.
 
sharkey said:
This stuff is well written but so is Harry Potter (I've heard). Until I see or experience something to convince me otherwise ghosts just don't fit into my world view. I'm always open to changing it though. But this stuff is as credible as my brother's friend's ex-roommate.
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One never knows.......

Just because you don't personally happen to believe it, doesn't make it untrue. I personally don't know one way or another, as I wasn't there.
 
The same thing happened with that Aloha 732 that had half the roof rip off. I think it went to AirCal/AA afterwards, I could be wrong but I know it went somewhere.

Whats kind of disturbing to me is an HKG based airline during WWII had a plane shot down by the Japanese over Macau killing everyone on board, but the wreckage was put back together and the plane went on flying for several more years. I'd feel pretty weird in that cabin...
 
Qgar said:
Continental is VERY superstitious. No row 13. I'm curious now--do any other airlines NOT have a row "13?"

BTW, Bill, I love your new avatar....:)
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Comair has row 13, ASA does not. Or is it the other way around? I cant remember, but I know one has it and the other does not.
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Talk about crazy, what if they repaired the US AIR plane that went into the Hudson? I don'tthink they are going to but if they did, that would be weird.
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That would have been weird! Fortunately they decided not to. This reminds me of that Southwest Airlines 737 that ran off the Runway at Midway Airport and killed that little boy. They repaired the plane and gave it another registration number.
 
"On another occasion, Faye Merryweather, a flight attendant, saw Repo's face looking out at her from an oven in the galley of Tri-Star 318. Understandably alarmed, she fetched two colleagues, one of whom was the flight engineer who had been a friend of Repo's and recognized him instantly. All three heard Repo warn them to, "Watch out for fire on this airplane." The plane later encountered serious engine trouble and the last leg of its flight was cancelled. It is interesting to note that the galley of Tri-Star 328 had been salvaged from the wreckage of flight 401."

:eek:

Might be a good discussion in "Your the Captain...."
 
Stomp16 said:
"On another occasion, Faye Merryweather, a flight attendant, saw Repo's face looking out at her from an oven in the galley of Tri-Star 318. Understandably alarmed, she fetched two colleagues, one of whom was the flight engineer who had been a friend of Repo's and recognized him instantly. All three heard Repo warn them to, "Watch out for fire on this airplane." The plane later encountered serious engine trouble and the last leg of its flight was cancelled. It is interesting to note that the galley of Tri-Star 328 had been salvaged from the wreckage of flight 401."

:eek:

Might be a good discussion in "Your the Captain...."
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Am telling you.......its not just some nutjob reporting a ghost. They saw what they saw.....
 
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