AA Summer 2025 New Hire Classes

[autosave36]

Everybody else got TBNT. A lot of people in the operation center has a license and don’t get interview at all. Now they sent out letter saying only going to call people who are in the pool. Get that training class done faster so the manager can show how much he has done for the operations. This will continue unless there’s a new manager

Yeah i mean they get upwards of 1000 applications every opening and maybe hire 20-30? That's a lot of tbnt's.

It's a competitive job, you have to compete. We got AA dispatchers in here saying they do indeed hire internals. So if you arent getting a look, you need to figure out why that is because some at AA ARE getting looks and are being hired.

 

[TAF_Master]

Yeah i mean they get upwards of 1000 applications every opening and maybe hire 20-30? That's a lot of tbnt's.

It's a competitive job, you have to compete. We got AA dispatchers in here saying they do indeed hire internals. So if you arent getting a look, you need to figure out why that is because some at AA ARE getting looks and are being hired.

To be fair, I have noticed with AA when they have a particular mindset for what sort of class they want they do tend to exclude all others who do not fit whatever it is....in this case FlightKeys experience.... regardless of other individual qualifications. It's no better or worse than DL's frequent internal classes which exclude all externals.

All you can do in that case is wait for the next class that may be more open to other groups or try another airline.

 

[Bobbyhill]

No point to stress my friends! Just keep trying eventually we will all get where we want to if we keep practicing and putting in the effort!
Everytime a major hires, almost all dispatcher offices start having rumors and who you "just know" is going and someone else upset about not having experience. It doesn't matter be happy who gets in! Work harder if you want to it to be you and it will be one day!

 

[BruinsFan]

Everybody else got TBNT. A lot of people in the operation center has a license and don’t get interview at all. Now they sent out letter saying only going to call people who are in the pool. Get that training class done faster so the manager can show how much he has done for the operations. This will continue unless there’s a new manager

A couple of points on this. I don't believe that the current manager wants training done "Faster" as you put it. If anything from what I have seen is that the Manager wants to hire more dispatchers but the beancounters have said no, even though the last class that was hired had fewer folks than retired last year. For the other thing you mentioned about only calling people. This is nothing new. You interview once to create the hiring pool, then when you get approval for more dispatchers you can grab from the pool without having to interview again (Which costs because you have to fly candidates in, and dedicate time to the interviews and all that stuff).

The Flightkeys experience is silly to me. It's such a new product that most airlines aren't even using it and most of the other airlines using it are competitor airlines. Envoy only has so many people you can pull every time. Also, I would argue that FOS is way more difficult to learn than Flightkeys and yet the company seemed to care less about FOS experience than Flightkeys experience. I don't get it.

Lastly, I feel AA ignores the other two wholly owned airlines way too much. PSA is interesting because they are moving from DAY to CLT. The Piedmont thing really makes my blood boil. Supposedly the manager of dispatch at Piedmont has veto power over losing dispatchers to Mainline. Thus people who would be great mainline dispatchers are stuck at Piedmont because Sailsbury MD is a hard place to attract talent to. And its counterproductive because eventually you are going to lose those folks not to Mainline, but to United, Southwest, etc. People have had to accept other jobs outside of DIspatch in the IOC just so that they couldn't be vetoed by the Piedmont guy. And if you ask me, I think all three wholly owned should all be on Flightkeys, and have more standardized procedures so that there is a consistent product across all three. I just don't get why Envoy gets the red carpet treatment, and PSA and Piedmont seem to get the Red Headed Bastard Stepchild treatment.

 

[I Like IKE]

A couple of points on this. I don't believe that the current manager wants training done "Faster" as you put it. If anything from what I have seen is that the Manager wants to hire more dispatchers but the beancounters have said no, even though the last class that was hired had fewer folks than retired last year. For the other thing you mentioned about only calling people. This is nothing new. You interview once to create the hiring pool, then when you get approval for more dispatchers you can grab from the pool without having to interview again (Which costs because you have to fly candidates in, and dedicate time to the interviews and all that stuff).

The Flightkeys experience is silly to me. It's such a new product that most airlines aren't even using it and most of the other airlines using it are competitor airlines. Envoy only has so many people you can pull every time. Also, I would argue that FOS is way more difficult to learn than Flightkeys and yet the company seemed to care less about FOS experience than Flightkeys experience. I don't get it.

Lastly, I feel AA ignores the other two wholly owned airlines way too much. PSA is interesting because they are moving from DAY to CLT. The Piedmont thing really makes my blood boil. Supposedly the manager of dispatch at Piedmont has veto power over losing dispatchers to Mainline. Thus people who would be great mainline dispatchers are stuck at Piedmont because Sailsbury MD is a hard place to attract talent to. And its counterproductive because eventually you are going to lose those folks not to Mainline, but to United, Southwest, etc. People have had to accept other jobs outside of DIspatch in the IOC just so that they couldn't be vetoed by the Piedmont guy. And if you ask me, I think all three wholly owned should all be on Flightkeys, and have more standardized procedures so that there is a consistent product across all three. I just don't get why Envoy gets the red carpet treatment, and PSA and Piedmont seem to get the Red Headed Bastard Stepchild treatment.

Piedmont isn't the only one with veto power. When I was at PSA, we got them to complain to mainline about how many they pull from Envoy vs. the other two. Then, when I applied, mainline wanted to take 12 of us from PSA for the first 2 classes. PSA told them they could only have 6. They put the rest of us in the pool. Thankfully, some of us got pulled from the pool. But I suspect that will hurt future chances for PSA dispatchers to be considered. It is very frustrating, and just plain wrong imo, that working for a wholly-owned can actually make it harder to get hired at mainline. But, unfortunately that's what we're stuck with.