AA parking half their fleet as well.

SquatThrust said:
Internal comms from just a couple hours ago at Piedmont says that AA has directed us to start consolidating flights. Likely the case for the other WO carriers.
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We are rebidding April because the “reductions were greater than we realized” at PSA. You think, Nostradamus?
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
Wait what? Are people just not flying trips now?
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Same at the Zoo. I've seen more alerts for more insanely incentivized premium trips in the last week than I have since last summer. I'm guessing that some of it is because they have kids whose schools are closed with no other care available, and probably a percentage of abuse as well (since they told us any sick call during this time would be reimbursed to one's sick bank).
 
roundout said:
Same at the Zoo. I've seen more alerts for more insanely incentivized premium trips in the last week than I have since last summer. I'm guessing that some of it is because they have kids whose schools are closed with no other care available, and probably a percentage of abuse as well (since they told us any sick call during this time would be reimbursed to one's sick bank).
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Odd. Mine has been very quiet.
 
BobDDuck said:
Sigh... That's not how concessionary bargaining works.

Welcome to 2002 through 2009.
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Oh I know, I was at XJT back when we were bargaining and PSA took a concessionary contract to get more jets and undermined the rest of the FFD industry.
 
roundout said:
Same at the Zoo. I've seen more alerts for more insanely incentivized premium trips in the last week than I have since last summer. I'm guessing that some of it is because they have kids whose schools are closed with no other care available, and probably a percentage of abuse as well (since they told us any sick call during this time would be reimbursed to one's sick bank).
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Not sure what you mean by "the Zoo" but that was the Air Force Academy LOL

In other news, the eskimo tailed empty airplane mover has had an insane amount of premium trips with DHs in open time lately. Far exceeding what's been "normal" the past month.
 
BobDDuck said:
Again... that's not how concessionary bargaining works.
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Is anybody concessionary bargaining yet? I think they're probably waiting to see what the bailout package looks like first. The only bargaining I've seen is pay protection and sick bank reimbursement for COVID related sick calls, and AA paying medical until 65 for early retirees.
 
Skåning said:
Oh I know, I was at XJT back when we were bargaining and PSA took a concessionary contract to get more jets and undermined the rest of the FFD industry.
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Isn’t that like complaining on Day 1 of Indoc at Legacy X that those lazy, pampered, prima donna mainline pilots screwed the industry back in the ‘90 by turning up their collective noses at the smaller jets? Not productive, doesn’t help the current situation, and has “Oh so that’s what it’ll be like on a 4-day with that one” running through everybody’s head.

Let’s just see how the next 6-12 mo pans out and what various pilot groups vote on.
 
Was supposed to be on an American 777 today DFW-OGG but cancelled for obvious reasons. Shows 18 passengers still. Lots of leg room!
 
roundout said:
Is anybody concessionary bargaining yet?
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Yes. I'm sure multiple properties are in discussions already. The deal we just signed gave sick protections and improved (50 hour) loas, but also suspended most forms of premium pay. That's a concession.

The name of the game is cash conservation. Yes the companies are all waiting to see what they get in bailout funds but they all know it will be certainly less than they want and probably less than they need so the difference will have to be made up elsewhere on the balance sheet.

Air Canada just furloughed 5100 flight attendants yesterday. Sadly this thing isn't going to end with a few guys taking early retirement and a couple of low credit vacation months. Understand that big contractual cuts will provably be made or (and?) Guys will get bumped off the list before this is all over. How fast guys get bumped, and where it stops depends on a whole lot of things but a big one is cost control. Just remember though when weighing what you are ok loosing, hourly pay is much easier to get back than work rules.
 
BobDDuck said:
Yes. I'm sure multiple properties are in discussions already. The deal we just signed gave sick protections and improved (50 hour) loas, but also suspended most forms of premium pay. That's a concession.

The name of the game is cash conservation. Yes the companies are all waiting to see what they get in bailout funds but they all know it will be certainly less than they want and probably less than they need so the difference will have to be made up elsewhere on the balance sheet.

Air Canada just furloughed 5100 flight attendants yesterday. Sadly this thing isn't going to end with a few guys taking early retirement and a couple of low credit vacation months. Understand that big contractual cuts will provably be made or (and?) Guys will get bumped off the list before this is all over. How fast guys get bumped, and where it stops depends on a whole lot of things but a big one is cost control. Just remember though when weighing what you are ok loosing, hourly pay is much easier to get back than work rules.
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You know whats even easier to get back? Monthly guarantee. It blows my mind that this lesson wasn’t learned in the BK days. It’s much better to reduce monthly guarantee than it is to slash pay rates. If you slash the pay rates, those slashed pay rates create the new artificial “starting point”
 
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