BobDispatch
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Anyone looking to get on with AA should apply.
Anyone looking to get on with AA should apply.
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thewaffles
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I can't believe an airline like AA pays at the regional level, very disappointing.
PHL_Approach
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Extensive thread from the last time they "tried" hiring. http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/aa.127263/
belgiumania
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They have to be kidding with that pay... I make more at a regional. What an embarrassment, especially with the requirements they have posted.
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
To be fair, AA did have a tentative agreement for a new contract with a significantly higher Delta-like pay scale, right when the Chapter 11 was announced, and that got thrown out. But I agree, it would be hard to start over at those wages (although I don't think DFW is that bad in terms of cost of living - many places are worse.) It says something that the company didn't seek to cut dispatcher pay any as part of the reorganization - the current contract agreement is almost exactly like the pre-bankruptcy one.
thewaffles
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AA management probably gave them a good agreement just to keep them quiet knowing they were going into Chapter 11.
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
Actually, I think it was the lack of progress in pilot negotiations that put them over the top and had them decide to do a BK. Just my opinion though.
thewaffles
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The point that I was trying to make is that management probably didn't care too much about the dispatch group judging as how small they are compared to the pilot group. By knowing that it's such a small group, they agreed to many of the changes in the contract knowing that they wouldn't get it since they were going to file BK.
AA HDQs is in the suburbs where the cost of living is actually pretty cheap. Short of living downtown, DFW is relatively cheap compared to other major cities. Not justifying pay in anyway... just saying.
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Mach82
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I know the feeling...it's sad that we have just as much responsibility for the flight as the pilot's and yet we are treated like the redheaded step-child. Equal Responsibility, Equal Pay. I think that's why you saw SWA DX get somewhere between FO & Capt pay.
Where did this notion that dispatchers "have just as much responsibility for the flight as the pilot" come from? Re-read FAR 121.533. Part (b) says:
"The pilot in command and the aircraft dispatcher are jointly responsible for the preflight planning, delay, and dispatch release of a flight in compliance with this chapter and operations specifications."
Joint responsibility does not necessarily mean equal responsibility. But even if it does, that joint responsibility only goes so far; i.e. until the flight moves from "planning" to "execution." Once that happens, the dispatcher's responsibilities change to:
FAR 121.533(c)
(1) Monitoring the progress of each flight;
(2) Issuing necessary information for the safety of the flight; and
(3) Cancelling or redispatching a flight if, in his opinion or the opinion of the pilot in command, the flight cannot operate or continue to operate safely as planned or released.
While the dispatcher is doing all that...
(d) Each pilot in command of an aircraft is, during flight time, in command of the aircraft and crew and is responsible for the safety of the passengers, crewmembers, cargo, and airplane.
Now what part of any of this suggests to you that a dispatcher has anywhere near the level responsibility of the Pilot in Command? Certainly the dispatcher plays an important role, but the two levels of responsibility are hardly equal. Because if the dispatcher can claim equality of responsibility, then so can the First Officer, and the Flight Attendant, and the Ground Crew.
Jet
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DFW isn't bad, cheaper than Orlando. There is a decent apartment complex right next to the AA training academy in DFW for $500 a month for a 1 bedroom. No state income tax either.
r311music
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manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
Yes, but with their starting pay so low, it never hurts to apply. If you have any kind of airline operations background they may substitute that for the dispatch experience, who knows.
