AA Engine Fire in DEN

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From one of the passengers answering questions on Reddit:

“We were telling him to open the exit, so it was passenger initiative.”

The logic behind, "Hey, we think the airplane is on fire, so let's go stand on the wing with no way safe way to egress it, while the fire is actually under that wing", baffles me.

Dumb. Cattle.
 
How would the average passenger know that there is no way off the wing? It's briefed as a usable emergency exit in every safety demo.

Plus some airplanes have slides off the wings, some don't. The average person doesn't know that.

Yes to both. All that is briefed is that the overwing exist is an emergency exit. And are they willing open if requested to, and to assist others (I seriously question the ability of many people sitting in exit rows who nod yes, that they are truly able to). However, other than that, nothing more is briefed on what to do once outside the exit door and on the wing, especially if no slide. So, barring other direction or orders, many people are going to stand there.
 
I had a ramp agent in YYZ one night ask me, "Why does every pilot write numbers on that little piece of paper on your wheel?" I replied, "That's our flight number and that's the only way we remember!"
At the hotel or at the van: "Flight number?"

Me, who flushed that information as soon as I heard "let 'em up, shut 'em down:"
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haha, this is also me. Sometimes I remember if I was PM for that leg and said it that many more times. But probably not
I've been mostly working the same flight numbers lately and still can't do it.

"Three...fifty...one? two? One of those."
 
How would the average passenger know that there is no way off the wing? It's briefed as a usable emergency exit in every safety demo.

Or you just wait for the instructions of crew rather than taking the initiative upon yourself to put yourself in more danger than you would have been had you stayed on the airplane.

I can almost guarantee you AA is going to get sued by at least one of those dingleberries that made their way out on to the wing.

"OMG, the trauma!"
 
Or you just wait for the instructions of crew rather than taking the initiative upon yourself to put yourself in more danger than you would have been had you stayed on the airplane.

Airbus did a study about 10 years ago. Almost 80% of all evacuations were passenger initiated, even if an official evacuation was eventually ordered.
 
Or you just wait for the instructions of crew rather than taking the initiative upon yourself to put yourself in more danger than you would have been had you stayed on the airplane.

I can almost guarantee you AA is going to get sued by at least one of those dingleberries that made their way out on to the wing.

"OMG, the trauma!"
Don't you know that every piece of self-loading cargo is way smarter than any trained crew member?!

They something about it on Tik Tok for God's sake!
 
Don't you know that every piece of self-loading cargo is way smarter than any trained crew member?!

They something about it on Tik Tok for God's sake!

“Grab your bags from the overhead! Exits good! COME THIS WAY!”
 
Any aircraft ever brakerode by me had 069 set on the yoke, and also on the heading and course selectors with 6900 as the altitude if it was going out live after the tow.

It ain't much, but it's honest work.

I’m sure what you all are dying for is another mil flying story. But this reminds me of a WSO I once flew with, who really got a giggle out of anything 69. At the boat, when you check in with Marshall (think of that like the last center before handoff to approach), you report your position (radial/DME)off the boat’s TACAN (boat and her position is called “mom” on the radio), with a fuel state in 1000/100 lb increments. Every single time on this deployment, at least when he and i were flying (but i expect always with everyone), he’d check in “202 checking in, marking mom’s 069 for 69, state 6.9”. Didn’t matter that we were actually on the 270 radial for 100 or whatever, or that we had a 10.0 of gas. Silly guy would just chuckle for a good 20 seconds afterwards. I just shook my head while asking him “dude WTF, can you stop doing that?” Lol
 
I’m sure what you all are dying for is another mil flying story. But this reminds me of a WSO I once flew with, who really got a giggle out of anything 69. At the boat, when you check in with Marshall (think of that like the last center before handoff to approach), you report your position (radial/DME)off the boat’s TACAN (boat and her position is called “mom” on the radio), with a fuel state in 1000/100 lb increments. Every single time on this deployment, at least when he and i were flying (but i expect always with everyone), he’d check in “202 checking in, marking mom’s 069 for 69, state 6.9”. Didn’t matter that we were actually on the 270 radial for 100 or whatever, or that we had a 10.0 of gas. Silly guy would just chuckle for a good 20 seconds afterwards. I just shook my head while asking him “dude WTF, can you stop doing that?” Lol
Do me a favor and thank him for his service. My best friend who served made his controller initials "db" because he could make it look like a male reproductive system easily. These are the veterans I thank the most.

On a side note, this was me in the ramp tower laughing at my own jokes and the responses of the pilots so hard I had to gather myself between calls. It's a good life, we only live one of them. Give me a "Zoo Book" magazine copy full of amazing animal facts, some animal sounds cued up, and control of 1/4 of the surface area of SFO and it is a good night.
 
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Do me a favor and thank him for his service. My best friend who served made his controller initials "db" because he could make it look like a male reproductive symbol easily. These are the veterans I thank the most.

Haha, yeah, when it is Groundhog Day e’ryday for the better part of 11 months, the simplest source of joy is finding a way to make mundane • funny. The other source, often disputed as bad science but always supported by science itself, is that of taking away someone else’s happiness to gain your own happiness. That is boat thermodynamics 101.

FWIW, i think he is currently deployed on one of our floating gray steel prison airports right now. I’ll tell him that :)
 
I’m sure what you all are dying for is another mil flying story. But this reminds me of a WSO I once flew with, who really got a giggle out of anything 69. At the boat, when you check in with Marshall (think of that like the last center before handoff to approach), you report your position (radial/DME)off the boat’s TACAN (boat and her position is called “mom” on the radio), with a fuel state in 1000/100 lb increments. Every single time on this deployment, at least when he and i were flying (but i expect always with everyone), he’d check in “202 checking in, marking mom’s 069 for 69, state 6.9”. Didn’t matter that we were actually on the 270 radial for 100 or whatever, or that we had a 10.0 of gas. Silly guy would just chuckle for a good 20 seconds afterwards. I just shook my head while asking him “dude WTF, can you stop doing that?” Lol
Where is this fine gentleman employed today?
 
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