AA 777 makes emergency landing in the Aleutians

modernicarus said:
"American Airlines says one of its jets made an emergency landing on an Aleutian island after a fire warning light went off."

I don't fly these aircraft, but I've never heard of having the fire warning light go "off" instead of "on" to indicate there is a problem. It just seems like it would be much more difficult to detect, also what if it was something simple and non-emergency related like the bulb burning out.
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All I know is that along that route there are not many places to put a big airplane.

As has been pointed out, it's not a time to play the "It's probably an indication" game out over the North Pacific. The fire systems are very reliable and will indicate if there is a fault in the system, so if you receive and indication and there is no fault message, it's time to get the engine secured and get the jet on the ground.
 
Rocketman99 said:
I'm half-jealous. I always wanted to land on Shemya and see the place and all the underground stuff. I certainly would not want to get the chance to finally do it because I may have been on fire flying over the ocean.
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AS goes into Adak on a regular basis. I had a buddy of mine jumpseat in with them and take the tour. I'm sure they'd love to take you.
 
I bet there was a lot of cargo in there to make up for the load factor. A lot of products are shipped from DFW to Asia.
 
Polar742 said:
All I know is that along that route there are not many places to put a big airplane.

As has been pointed out, it's not a time to play the "It's probably an indication" game out over the North Pacific. The fire systems are very reliable and will indicate if there is a fault in the system, so if you receive and indication and there is no fault message, it's time to get the engine secured and get the jet on the ground.
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If the article is correct, and the indication was for a cargo bay, which engine do you secure?;)
 
gne in prog said:
If the article is correct, and the indication was for a cargo bay, which engine do you secure?;)
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It depends. If a bleed line from that engine ran through that cargo compartment and you couldn't shut that bleed line off by any other way, you'd have to shut down that engine. It can happen.:D
 
gne in prog said:
If the article is correct, and the indication was for a cargo bay, which engine do you secure?;)
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Doh!!! I fail reading 101.

That would make it more critical, being a cargo fire. They tell us that we have about 15 mins if there's a cargo fire. It doesn't create a warm fuzzy when your nearest airport is a couple hours away.
 
Orange Anchor said:
We used to do a run to Bermuda in the 767. When the merger arrived the wizards switched it to a 727 due to low load factors on the 767. The problem was the 767 could have done the run with almost NO ONE on board. The freight alone made the trip profitable. The 727, on the other hand, could not carry the freight and the load factor for profit had to be quite high. Another brilliant marketing decision.
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Marketing set aircraft flows?
 
jynxyjoe said:
SERIALLY!

Personally though, I'd just cancel as soon as I got out of oceanic. You should cancel shortly after takeoff!
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You gripe about the thread you are referencing still going, but then keep spreading it around to other threads???:dunno:
 
Justin172 said:
Marketing set aircraft flows?
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Yes. The wizards in marketing were in control of what airplanes went into what markets. The futzed up the Florida Shuttle. They trashed the west coast market so the reason for buying PSA was eliminated within 18-24 months, sold the international routes with leases to BA and wanted to get rid of first class on the airplanes. Just wizards...
 
Stone Cold said:
You gripe about the thread you are referencing still going, but then keep spreading it around to other threads???:dunno:
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Yes. While there is nothing more to be learned on that thread, and no ones minds have been changed, and no one thinks they are wrong, then shut it down.

Hawyeva, it's actually funny on this thread.
 
Doug Taylor said:
There's a lot of dough in cargo.

Sadly, passengers are almost the loss-leader.

OMGZ $199 to fly LA to BOS, they'ruh rippin' us awffff!
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And they complain that there is no food after they paid that to move them across the country ...tools
 
Minuteman said:
Sound low, but that's an 80% or 88% load depending on the configuration.

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Just curious where you get these maps from. I've seen them before.
 
Almost saw Shemya the other day. It's usually under the goop. Everytime I pass over it I think to myself..."What does one have to screw up to end up on Shemya?" Then again I also figure it is probably full of scientists and spooks. Anyone have some insight?

+1 for a cargo fire being the worse case scenario. That stretch of the Pacific is pretty limited for options, it's Shemya or Petropavlovsk and they aren't close to each other.
 
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