A220 without engines PVD
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KLB
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The manufacturer really doesn't mention these "gotcha's" at the time of purchase.
Box hauler
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I think it’s an unexpected issue due to the powdered metal problem they’re having. It’s the same with the PW1100G on the NEO’s. Supposedly those are estimated to take 400 days due to the volume that needs to be inspected. I believe Spirit will have 70 aircraft down for that reason by the end of 2025…
KLB
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Yeah. I know. PW essentially needs to build an entirely new facility that is fully staffed just to deal with the amount of inspection that they are behind on.
A lot of aircraft parts manufacturers are in the same boat also. There are a lot of cheap/not well thought out aircraft components have been produced lately.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Someone more in the know than me can comment, but I believe Widget has their own engine shop/Pratt certs so they are handling at least some of the inspections in house.
Supposedly Pratt (subsidiary of RTX, dontchaknow) is paying the carriers some undisclosed amounts of money in compensation for this flaming poopshow of an engine problem but it’s nowhere near enough to make anyone whole from the lost revenue.
It really sucks.
CFI A&P
Exploring the world one toilet at a time.
Just the other day I read an article that claims the timeline has been reduced considerably. Maybe around 6 months now, let me see if I can find it for reference.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Would love to know that. Awaiting your post.....
CFI A&P
Exploring the world one toilet at a time.
Still looking for that other one, but this is another one that I had read about more MROs opening and assisting in the process:
Embraer begins helping to repair problematic GTF engine in Portugal - Air Data News
Since July 25, Pratt & Whitney has been counting on Embraer’s help to solve the problems of the advanced GTF engine, which has caused many airlines
www.airdatanews.com
This shop says the can reduce turn around time to less than 100 days:
MTU drives down GTF overhaul time with 100-day target in sight
MTU Aero Engines is working to cut the time taken to overhaul and replace Pratt & Whitney geared turbofan (GTF) engines to under 100 days to minimise disruption for airline customers.
www.flightglobal.com
bimmerphile
MCAS Meat Inhibition Logic
wonder if MTU did indeed get to 100 days
they said targets for 25 and 26 werent established because of parts availability but would like to get it on par with their V2500 series of 60 days
they said targets for 25 and 26 werent established because of parts availability but would like to get it on par with their V2500 series of 60 days
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
Just upgraded on the 220 last month. All our parked 220’s are going to be back online in February and the number we were projected to park didn’t reach as high as they feared.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Do the limitiations prevent you from pointing at a ballpark timeframe average that is LESS than 300 days per engine?
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
I’m curious are the 220 PW issues not the same as what the 320neo PW issues are?
H46Bubba
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Minuteman
I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING!
How are the engines being picked for when they need to go in the shop?
Flight Global showed a chart where roughly 1/3rd of A320NEO and A220 fleets are in storage, presumably because of the "powder metal matter."
Is it just a significantly-reduced time on wing?
Flight Global showed a chart where roughly 1/3rd of A320NEO and A220 fleets are in storage, presumably because of the "powder metal matter."
Is it just a significantly-reduced time on wing?
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
I was in Berlin earlier this year and Lufthansa had a line of A320s just sitting there with no engines.
From what I have been told my shop has the ability to do the repairs internally but P&W is being weird about it. Seems logical to me. P&W likes EPR which is weird as well.
From what I have been told my shop has the ability to do the repairs internally but P&W is being weird about it. Seems logical to me. P&W likes EPR which is weird as well.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Though, oddly, the PW1100G as installed at Spirit indicated and set thrust in N1, not EPR. Make it make sense!
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
Was there a few months ago and they’re still there. Taped up for long storage.