A year in the life of a ASA/Xjet new hire

Jimmy_Norton

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What would the first year be like for a new hire at ASA/Xjet? Would someone be able to have an EWR base right out of training? How long would be it till someone holds a line out of EWR? What would the pay be for the first year, all things considered? What does the second year pay look like? What would the QOL life be commuting to EWR from MHT/BOS?

I'm fairly experienced, about 2800 total, 600 multi turbine. Aside from getting hired, would that give me any advantage over a 1000 hour CFI, i.e. upgrading sooner? I have my ATP written, would I be able to use my checkride as an ATP ride?
 
You would be the equivalent of a 500/50 hour CMEL holder and unfortunately (assuming it is by age) would be less senior to him if he was born before you. :) Enjoy the industry where you are just a number among other numbers.
 
You would be the equivalent of a 500/50 hour CMEL holder and unfortunately (assuming it is by age) would be less senior to him if he was born before you. :) Enjoy the industry where you are just a number among other numbers.

O believe me I know it. Repeat after me: I love my job, I love my job, I love my job.
 
What would the first year be like for a new hire at ASA/Xjet? Would someone be able to have an EWR base right out of training? How long would be it till someone holds a line out of EWR? What would the pay be for the first year, all things considered? What does the second year pay look like? What would the QOL life be commuting to EWR from MHT/BOS?

I'm fairly experienced, about 2800 total, 600 multi turbine. Aside from getting hired, would that give me any advantage over a 1000 hour CFI, i.e. upgrading sooner? I have my ATP written, would I be able to use my checkride as an ATP ride?

Life isnt to bad just be prepared to have a crappy reserve schedule. Yes you can prolly get EWR right out of training. I am on month 3 on the line and fairly close to a releif line. you can find out the pay on apc. I enjoy EWR. you have no advantage once in training. if there is a guy one day older than you with only 500 hours he is senior. Means he will upgrade first he will get to bid before you. deal with it. it is how this industry roles. and NO the type ride is only SIC so they cannot do the ATP at the same time on that one.
 
You would be the equivalent of a 500/50 hour CMEL holder and unfortunately (assuming it is by age) would be less senior to him if he was born before you. :) Enjoy the industry where you are just a number among other numbers.

Never mind.
 
MHT - EWR recently got switched to Dash 8's that frequently go out weight restricted.
BOS - EWR has a ton of super senior CAL guys who commute.

These are not things I've experienced directly.
 
What would the first year be like for a new hire at ASA/Xjet? Would someone be able to have an EWR base right out of training? How long would be it till someone holds a line out of EWR? What would the pay be for the first year, all things considered? What does the second year pay look like? What would the QOL life be commuting to EWR from MHT/BOS?

I'm fairly experienced, about 2800 total, 600 multi turbine. Aside from getting hired, would that give me any advantage over a 1000 hour CFI, i.e. upgrading sooner? I have my ATP written, would I be able to use my checkride as an ATP ride?

First year would go something like.......2 months (more or less) in Houston doing ground school and sim work. At that point you'd be assigned a base, most likely ORD or EWR. From day 1 you can put EWR as your top choice and even try trading somebody for it.....Then you'd do IOE at your new base for probably a trip or two. After that you're cut loose and you're on Reserve.

Bottom line is you can either get EWR out of training or get it within months via a trade/advancement.

Reserve will last anywhere from no time at all (literally) to years. It all depends on how much hiring is done. At this point, we seem to be hiring quite a few pilots, so if hired today you'd only spend 2-4 months on reserve. Our reserve rules are pretty good (for a major or regional). It allows you some flexibility in days and you can select trips. We also have humane airport standy-by rules when compared to most of our peers.

How long to hold a line? Like I said, at this point a few months. If you're hired at the very tail end of hiring though it could be a long time.

First year pay....I'd have to look at APC for an actual # but it's pretty dismal and similar to most of our regional peers. I think you'd make somewhere around 30K. By second year in the 40's.

Generally speaking BOS is a good commute. The options are typically via United (Continental) which has 7+ flights a day on 737/Q400/Embraers or via JetBlue. The positive are that there are many flights, the negative is that there are many commuters as well. Overall Boston commuters seem to be a happy bunch, I don't hear too many complaining. Oh, and it's a what, 30 minute flight!

Now Manchester......mmm.....4 flights a day typically. Many commuters from XJT and United (CAL) who are remnants of Bar Harbor Airlines. It's a notoriously difficult commute and many end up catching a bus through BOS.

Your experience will be appreciated by most, but unfortunately for you it won't result in a quicker upgrade as it's a pure seniority based system. The checkride you take upon getting hired will be a SIC type. Perhaps you can work out an ATP ride if you speak to the right people.....

Good luck and feel free to PM me if you have any more questions about XJT or EWR.
 
First year would go something like.......2 months (more or less) in Houston doing ground school and sim work. At that point you'd be assigned a base, most likely ORD or EWR. From day 1 you can put EWR as your top choice and even try trading somebody for it.....Then you'd do IOE at your new base for probably a trip or two. After that you're cut loose and you're on Reserve.

Bottom line is you can either get EWR out of training or get it within months via a trade/advancement.

Reserve will last anywhere from no time at all (literally) to years. It all depends on how much hiring is done. At this point, we seem to be hiring quite a few pilots, so if hired today you'd only spend 2-4 months on reserve. Our reserve rules are pretty good (for a major or regional). It allows you some flexibility in days and you can select trips. We also have humane airport standy-by rules when compared to most of our peers.

How long to hold a line? Like I said, at this point a few months. If you're hired at the very tail end of hiring though it could be a long time.

First year pay....I'd have to look at APC for an actual # but it's pretty dismal and similar to most of our regional peers. I think you'd make somewhere around 30K. By second year in the 40's.

Generally speaking BOS is a good commute. The options are typically via United (Continental) which has 7+ flights a day on 737/Q400/Embraers or via JetBlue. The positive are that there are many flights, the negative is that there are many commuters as well. Overall Boston commuters seem to be a happy bunch, I don't hear too many complaining. Oh, and it's a what, 30 minute flight!

Now Manchester......mmm.....4 flights a day typically. Many commuters from XJT and United (CAL) who are remnants of Bar Harbor Airlines. It's a notoriously difficult commute and many end up catching a bus through BOS.

You're experience will be appreciated by most, but unfortunately for you it won't result in a quicker upgrade as it's a pure seniority based system. The checkride you take upon getting hired will be a SIC type. Perhaps you can work out an ATP ride if you speak to the right people.....

Good luck and feel free to PM me if you have any more questions about XJT or EWR.

Baronman you EWR based?
 
This was posted on another web site. Apparently this was a survey for recruiters at a recent job fair.

ExpressJet

What are your hiring minimums?
-700 TT, 100 Multi unless attended a major aviaiton university and acquired advanced jet training at the university. Minimums will increase each month as we approach AUG 2013 for HR 5900.

How many pilots does the company plan to hire in 2012?
-400 plus.

What is the upgrade time?
-5 Years.

What domicile would pilots be assigned?
-IAH, CLE, ORD, EWR.

What are the characteristics you are looking for in a pilot candidate?
-Great work ethic in an employee who is also a great pilot.

What areas are the pilots having trouble with during the interview process?
-Not watching details in filling out an application.

If there is no job offer, how soon can a candidate reapply?
-6 months.

How to apply for a position:
Pilots | ExpressJet Airlines

Additional Comments?
Come to the job fair prepared by filling out an application on airlineapps.com
 
First year would go something like.......2 months (more or less) in Houston doing ground school and sim work. At that point you'd be assigned a base, most likely ORD or EWR. From day 1 you can put EWR as your top choice and even try trading somebody for it.....Then you'd do IOE at your new base for probably a trip or two. After that you're cut loose and you're on Reserve.

Bottom line is you can either get EWR out of training or get it within months via a trade/advancement.

Reserve will last anywhere from no time at all (literally) to years. It all depends on how much hiring is done. At this point, we seem to be hiring quite a few pilots, so if hired today you'd only spend 2-4 months on reserve. Our reserve rules are pretty good (for a major or regional). It allows you some flexibility in days and you can select trips. We also have humane airport standy-by rules when compared to most of our peers.

How long to hold a line? Like I said, at this point a few months. If you're hired at the very tail end of hiring though it could be a long time.

First year pay....I'd have to look at APC for an actual # but it's pretty dismal and similar to most of our regional peers. I think you'd make somewhere around 30K. By second year in the 40's.

Generally speaking BOS is a good commute. The options are typically via United (Continental) which has 7+ flights a day on 737/Q400/Embraers or via JetBlue. The positive are that there are many flights, the negative is that there are many commuters as well. Overall Boston commuters seem to be a happy bunch, I don't hear too many complaining. Oh, and it's a what, 30 minute flight!

Now Manchester......mmm.....4 flights a day typically. Many commuters from XJT and United (CAL) who are remnants of Bar Harbor Airlines. It's a notoriously difficult commute and many end up catching a bus through BOS.

Your experience will be appreciated by most, but unfortunately for you it won't result in a quicker upgrade as it's a pure seniority based system. The checkride you take upon getting hired will be a SIC type. Perhaps you can work out an ATP ride if you speak to the right people.....

Good luck and feel free to PM me if you have any more questions about XJT or EWR.


30K lmao ya right. Our first year pay is like 23.05. As of lately they have stopped sending new hires to ORD. Everyone has been going to EWR and CLE. As far as reserve, I am a June 11 new hire. This was my first month holding a line as a ORD FO. Other guys in my class held a line one month earlier than I did in EWR.
 
hc0fitted said:
30K lmao ya right. Our first year pay is like 23.05. As of lately they have stopped sending new hires to ORD. Everyone has been going to EWR and CLE. As far as reserve, I am a June 11 new hire. This was my first month holding a line as a ORD FO. Other guys in my class held a line one month earlier than I did in EWR.

This a hard line, or a relief line?
 
How far up are you from the bottom? And, how many are in your base, how many more spots before the first hard line?

I don't know where jtrain is getting his numbers from but they are no where near to being accurate. 200 on base ? . There is double that . There are 400 FO's at ORD. 150-160 lines? It is more like 280. To answer your question surreal, I am about 70 from the bottom and have about 60 people in front of me before I see a hard line.
 
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