A rant about my fellow airline passengers

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Does anyone else remember when people used to get dressed up to fly?

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Does anyone remember having to dress for non-rev travel (stand-by)????? I remember having to have a 2 piece, if not 3 piece to fly standby UAL, unless HNL in/out then Aloha shirt was fine, but they really hated you on the ORD-DTW flights. What are the dress requirements now for non-rev?

[/ QUOTE ]business casual if you want in first class... you can wear jeans for coach - but not shorts/tank top style clothing...

I always go business casual!!!! I figure I'm a reflection on the company and on my husband's job.

I kinda wish they'd make people get dressed up.. then, probably not so many ppl weiners would fly! hahaha bring "class" back to the skies, i say!!
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I can't stand the people who bother you when deadheading!!! You suddenly become the know-it-all of all things aviation, from luggage handling, to ticketing, where their connecting flight is leaving from, etc... I was on a Delta mainline flight back to Atlanta the other day, (after having worked 16 hours the day before and another 13 that day) and this passenger felt the need to ask me everything about what was happening. Normally I wouldn't mind and would answer whatever questions they had, but I was sleeping! Not just napping, but sleeping. I had a sweatshirt I was using as a pillow, blanket on, lights off, eyes closed and even had earplugs in!!!! That's when the shoulder-tap and "excuse me..." came. I couldn't believe it!
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Note to passengers...if you see a pilot sleeping on an airplane, let him sleep. Trust me, he's probably exhausted and has to do it all again tomorrow or later that same day.
 
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Hell, man. I'd pay the $364 if UAL wanted it.

Especially if it drove the Air Greyhound types to Greyhound.

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My goodness, people - these are the folks that keep the airlines in the air as it is!!

If the majority of the flying public is of the "Greyhound type", and that's the base of your revenue, you need to take care of those people!!

Maybe there should be an airline just for all of the folks that are "too good" for the common traveler. Then, the rest of us riff raf could wear jeans on our flights in peace.
 
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Maybe there should be an airline just for all of the folks that are "too good" for the common traveler. Then, the rest of us riff raf could wear jeans on our flights in peace.

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Charter, baby! Come on down!

For "just a few dollars more" we'll go on your schedule, no messing around with the TSA, no having to show up 2 hours early, everyone that is on your flight with you is because you want them there, and we'll bring you back home on your schedule! Meeting going an hour long? No problem. Get done two hours early? No problem. When you show up at the plane, we leave! Bring your American Express card and we'll fix you guys right up! We'll have snacks, drinks, coffee, newspapers on board just for you! And, you can wear a suit or jeans and sandals - you're choice, you're the boss!
 
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...bring "class" back to the skies, i say!!

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I agree completely. I still dress business casual (all but the tie) for trips. I can only think of once not dressing that way, and it was on a day 4 of a 4 day return from HNL to DTW one year. Used to be a reflection of UAL that we had to dress, now a reflection of my current employer (and I have gotten work from other travelers).
 
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I always go business casual!!!! I figure I'm a reflection on the company and on my husband's job.

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When I used to non-rev on NWA we had to wear a shirt and tie and definetly NO JEANS. I understood it and had no problems, but the thing that got me was mgmt's reasoning. "We don't want you to stick out", "you need to blend in". Which was rather ironic, because we were the ones that stuck out like a sore thumb. People were always asking, "Do you work for the airline?". Boy do I miss that FREE travel!
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I am with you there! Best part was our seniority date. 7/11/1954. 99% chance of First Class
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Where to start,...

It seems that many of you seem to feel that you are "Better" than most or have some sort
of angst against people who wear normal ( comfortable ) clothing?

I don't get this, nor will I ever. The notion that wearing a particular "style" of clothing denotes the
"quality of a person," seems so rediculous that this entire subject must have something to do with a
disfunction of those affected EGO's ,or for which the inheirent upbringing has brought about for the said offended person(s).

Basically, who cares how a person "dresses" as long as it is not revealing a person's private parts etc.

Can a person dress "Professionally" and be a complete Tool?
Yes. Can a person dress like a complete "Tool" and yet, be a professional?
Yes, of course.

I think many of you need to get off your high horse and just relax. As said above, the general populace
are those that pay your salaries. So the next time you see someone wearing shorts and sandels on your flight
because it is either HOT outside, or,... if it is simply "Their Style," So be it.

By the way, ( the only reason you all may feel that wearing a shirt and tie/with dress pants is professional)
is simply due to the fact that, this is what society as a whole has taught you.

Just imagine if your airline said, okay... from now on, we are going to wear shorts and t-shirts when you feel the need.
Would you quit your job? If not,.. I think you should just relax and stop worrying about such a rediculous personal predjudice.

( By the way, I wear business casual and sometimes if it's hot, I'll wear comfortable shorts )
( oh the horror )

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-Perpetual
 
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Bring your American Express card and we'll fix you guys right up!

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And, you can wear a suit or jeans and sandals - you're choice, you're the boss!

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what about flip-slops and a tutu?
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what about flip-slops and a tutu?
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Ahhhhh! Now I have to get the image of Lloyd in a tutu and flip flops out of my brain!!
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I'm just an average guy, who happen to be raised by parents who taught me that you should respect yourself by dressing appropriately. Before you get any ideas, I was hardly born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Both my parents are teachers. Like I said it's a respect thing, and while you may not feel the need to respect the pilots, FA, ticket agents, etc. I feel that one should respect themselves, by not looking like a bum. This includes bathing daily, putting on fresh clothes in the morning, shaving, speaking properly (i.e. using correct grammer), etc. I will say that I agree with you about individual expression, but I have two thoughts on that:

1. It's kind of sad in a way if the only way you have to express yourself is what you wear. If you want distiguish yourself, do it in a meaningful way. Write poetry, get outstanding grades, excel in sports. Wearing "unique" clothing is a cop out.

2. Sadly a person's perception is their reality. So when you go out looking like a tool, whether your a Nobel Prize winner or not, everyone who sees you sees you as a tool, and sure you can argue that people should take the time to get to know you, blah, blah, blah, but why should I take the time to get to know you if you look like a tool? Fair? No. A fact of life? Absolutely.

Just for the record I'm not offended by people who choose to look like [censored]. The most time I spend on it (aside from JC) is shake my head at the illogic of it, but hey I respect your choices.

That's my two cents.

Naunga
 
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I figure I'm a reflection on the company and on my husband's job.

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Absolutely! I do the same when I'm traveling for business. When I'm out in the world for my company, I'm a reflection of it, and while I may not work in sales, etc. if a potential customer started talking with me found out that I worked for XYZ Company, but I looked like a bum then we may have lost a customer.

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So you hack that $90 bucks off, plus another $60 by getting rid of inflight snacks, pillows, and blankets.

You get rid of first class and pack the seats in as tightly as they are on a Greyhound.

You could probably actually hack another $50 off and still be profitable. Maybe even cut into SWA's market share.

Of course the hard part will be getting the jet to run on diesel fuel, but we can work on that later.

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Oh and one more thing...

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So, UAL is $90 more expensive, but it takes five hours versus 63 hours.

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Makes you wonder why UAL isn't using this as a marketing campaign?

Perhaps they don't want the Greyhound crowd flying the the friendly skies?

Hmmm

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Makes you wonder why UAL isn't using this as a marketing campaign?

Perhaps they don't want the Greyhound crowd flying the the friendly skies?

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You may have hit on something there. If you are a business, who do you want? People that will pay $50 or $100 more so that they get a little more legroom?

Or people that want the lowest price, period?
 
well, I've seen a few of these threads and I feel compelled to throw in my two cents as well. As someone who has a crappy paying job, hell yes, I am going to go for the cheapest ticket I can find. $50? That's another week's worth of groceries. I don't mind flying Southwest at all, in fact, they are usually the first company I check before I run Orbitz, Non Rev Central, and Student Universe. I am willing to drive farther to get a cheaper fare at better times (I'm in Ann Arbor and am driving to Flint to catch a plane to DFW over the 4th of July).

As far as clothing goes, it's one thing if you're representing a company but it's another if you're on a trip for pleasure. Sorry guys, people don't dress up to go on planes any more, just like they don't get dressed up to go to the movies or out to dinner at a casual restraunt. It's not the 50's. Seems to me as though the majority of America wouldn't wear a suit and tie unless it was required of them (either by their company or by social standards). Flying has become so integrated into American life it's not seen as a special occasion anymore. You wear what you feel comfortable in - if it's a suit cool, wear it, but don't bag on me for wearing shorts and sandals. There's no dress code on the plane (at least not one i've seen enforced) so if you don't want to fly with us riff-raf (as Lloyd put it) then fly first class or charter a plane.
 
You want to talk about respect for yourself? How about not conforming to what society tells me is proper and holding myself to a higher level than what everyone else thinks. I wear lots of black t-shirts and khaki's with a pair of Doc Martin somethings. Got a problem with it? That's not my issue. Don't think I'm respecting myself because of how I dress? You've got another thing coming bro. I am in fact having some shred of respect for myself because I, and ONLY I, choose how I will present myself to the world. If the world, or the society I live in, dosen't agree then that's not my problem. Not respecting myself would be to act like a lemming like every other cookie cutter wanna be out there.

Posers, tools, whatever you want to call them. Don't bag on me for not having respect for myself because I'm the one out there doing MY thing. If you're not doing that and instead are conforming to society because it's "the right thing" then you've got a really skewed reality.

BTW I don't mean to come off pissy, but seriously! Not having respect for yourself because of how you dress? I'm out there trying to HAVE some respect for myself by doing whatever it is that I do and you have the gall to bag on that (not that you're singling me out, but I am the kind of person you are targeting)?

We might as well come out of a factory. Make yourself.

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As someone who has a crappy paying job, hell yes, I am going to go for the cheapest ticket I can find.

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Different strokes for different folks. I'm willing to pay for convenience. I don't fly out of BWI to save a few bucks because it's a royal PITA. I want to depart when I want to, fly back when I want to, and if it costs more to do that, so be it. If my company's paying for it, it ain't my money anyway, and if I don't use it, they'll cut my budget the next quarter. And if I'm paying for it, then my vacation is worth something, so I'll pay more to enjoy it for longer.

Neither option is better or worse, just different priorities.

And it's not the dress, it's the behavior. Would it kill some pax to shower? Or to not chomp their gum so loudly that I can hear it over the airplane noise? Or to not take a seat that isn't theirs?

You can be dressed in a Armani suit with a Rolex on your wrist and Gucci shoes on your feet, but if you act like that, all that fancy clothing ain't fooling anyone.

As for the dress itself, hey, I'm a pretty casual guy. But I believe in the when in Rome type deal. You guys didn't wander around Europe wearing shorts and t-shirts, since that would scream "American tourist" as loudly as if you painted it on your foreheads!
 
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