A name of ERAU/UND will land you a job?
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Dang I hate those.
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Sometimes I read those "I'm out of here" posts and my response reminds me of the speech our old college hang-out-bar owner would make at closing time: "Hey buddy, it's that time again. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here. Don't let the screen door hit ya where the good Lord split ya..."
Dang I hate those.
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Sometimes I read those "I'm out of here" posts and my response reminds me of the speech our old college hang-out-bar owner would make at closing time: "Hey buddy, it's that time again. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here. Don't let the screen door hit ya where the good Lord split ya..."
caliginousface
Frank N. Beans
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. I wear an ERAU lanyard and am thinking of getting rid of it due to the Riddle comments.
TX
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At least you don't have a license plate on your BMW that says "ERAU PLT" along with an ERAU window sticker............
These things exist........I kid you not.
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there's a kid here with a "FLYERAU" plate, bleh.
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. I wear an ERAU lanyard and am thinking of getting rid of it due to the Riddle comments.
TX
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At least you don't have a license plate on your BMW that says "ERAU PLT" along with an ERAU window sticker............
These things exist........I kid you not.
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there's a kid here with a "FLYERAU" plate, bleh.
sargeanb
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<----this guy right here....got TWO window stickers and the lanyard (being a Riddle CFI and all)....yep...I'm one of 'em. No Beamer though...that would require money. I had an internship up at AOPA and they wouldn't let me hear the end of it...my direct boss was a Riddle grad, and our boss was a UND grad. Every time we went flying he said something like "Uh-oh look out, two riddlers in the same airplane." All in good fun though...I had a great time up there.
I know that myself and alot of the other grads are trying to dispell the thought that we think we are "better" than other applicants. I did all my training here, but I've worked elsewhere, and that actually has some advantages over us...flexibility for one. I remember teaching at a local pt 61 school, planning a long IFR XC with a student...only activity for the day. We landed at St. Augustine and saw that heavy storms were all along our route to Tallahasee. Plus, the restaraunt in St. Aug. was closed! So, I had him replan to Lakeland, which met the reqs for the rating, and there is a great restaraunt there! Departed about an hour later after some storms passed, ate at Lakeland, and came home. I could not do that here, as I would probably have 3 more activities following the XC, and I don't want to leave anyone out if possible. Plus we have tight Pt 141 reqs that have to be met, and can only fly to "approved" airports. I'll always take the experience I gained flying outside of the university and give that to my students...or what they see when they go out and get that first job may be a surprise.
We're a bit protected here with practically new aircraft, a great maintenance staff, and supervisors/flight records staff to check all of our paperwork. It's a different world out there, and THAT is what we want students to be ready for. The main advantage we have is the internship programs...this industry is all about contacts, and internships during school are a great way to meet people, and we have alot of them readily available. The training is top notch (not to toot my own horn), and you rarely if ever have to worry about not having an aircraft/instructor available for flights. Also, I came out with 24 hrs in a B1900D sim and 16 hrs in a B737-800 sim, and I've heard from several regional recruiters this is "like gold." It should be, considering the money paid (loans) for it. Plus, classes on everything from electronic navigation to CRM to jets systems should make airline indoc training seem fairly familiar. I enjoyed it very much, and still am enjoying it (despite the loans!).
But as far as the university "name" getting you extra points during an interview...not likely, though some folks in the industry know us because they are grads from the various universities. That's what I know...
-Brock Sargeant
MEII
caliginousface said:
<----this guy right here....got TWO window stickers and the lanyard (being a Riddle CFI and all)....yep...I'm one of 'em. No Beamer though...that would require money. I had an internship up at AOPA and they wouldn't let me hear the end of it...my direct boss was a Riddle grad, and our boss was a UND grad. Every time we went flying he said something like "Uh-oh look out, two riddlers in the same airplane." All in good fun though...I had a great time up there.
I know that myself and alot of the other grads are trying to dispell the thought that we think we are "better" than other applicants. I did all my training here, but I've worked elsewhere, and that actually has some advantages over us...flexibility for one. I remember teaching at a local pt 61 school, planning a long IFR XC with a student...only activity for the day. We landed at St. Augustine and saw that heavy storms were all along our route to Tallahasee. Plus, the restaraunt in St. Aug. was closed! So, I had him replan to Lakeland, which met the reqs for the rating, and there is a great restaraunt there! Departed about an hour later after some storms passed, ate at Lakeland, and came home. I could not do that here, as I would probably have 3 more activities following the XC, and I don't want to leave anyone out if possible. Plus we have tight Pt 141 reqs that have to be met, and can only fly to "approved" airports. I'll always take the experience I gained flying outside of the university and give that to my students...or what they see when they go out and get that first job may be a surprise.
We're a bit protected here with practically new aircraft, a great maintenance staff, and supervisors/flight records staff to check all of our paperwork. It's a different world out there, and THAT is what we want students to be ready for. The main advantage we have is the internship programs...this industry is all about contacts, and internships during school are a great way to meet people, and we have alot of them readily available. The training is top notch (not to toot my own horn), and you rarely if ever have to worry about not having an aircraft/instructor available for flights. Also, I came out with 24 hrs in a B1900D sim and 16 hrs in a B737-800 sim, and I've heard from several regional recruiters this is "like gold." It should be, considering the money paid (loans) for it. Plus, classes on everything from electronic navigation to CRM to jets systems should make airline indoc training seem fairly familiar. I enjoyed it very much, and still am enjoying it (despite the loans!).
But as far as the university "name" getting you extra points during an interview...not likely, though some folks in the industry know us because they are grads from the various universities. That's what I know...
-Brock Sargeant
MEII
caliginousface
Frank N. Beans
sargeanb said:
haha, i think i've met you before. that's another thing about going here there are a lot of • and pricks that go to this school. the cool thing is that a lot of pilots here think they are gods gift to flying. the training is good, there are a lot of knowledegeable instructors, but there are a lot of knowlegeable instructors every where.
for the past 4 weeks i'd been getting no more than 2 activities a week for the multi addon. i think that's bull. my roomate still doesnt have an instructor and he transferred from daytona. all he has to do is multi commmercial.
the only good thing i see from riddle is internships. all those nav classes you took, we all learn them when we go to ground for regionals, or wherever. yeah you might have background on it, but we all will learn it if that's what we have to do.
i feel tricked by coming here, and i'm actually discouraged flying here. if the sim time is golden, and with the riddle name, why arent you hired yet? this will be my last semester, and i'm happy for that. no100k+ loans to pay back.
i'm not meaning to question you as a person, but more so the school.
caliginousface
Frank N. Beans
sargeanb said:
wait time out, you're in florida? there is another guy then in prescott with a flyerau plate from california. heh
DE727UPS
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"Also, I came out with 24 hrs in a B1900D sim and 16 hrs in a B737-800 sim, and I've heard from several regional recruiters this is "like gold."
Please let us know, down the road, if this is true and what it does for you. Personally, I found that nothing about going to Riddle gave me an advantage.
Please let us know, down the road, if this is true and what it does for you. Personally, I found that nothing about going to Riddle gave me an advantage.
sargeanb
New Member
caliginousface said:
In Daytona, they're all over the place!! The "golden" sim time is just what the recruiters told us a few years ago...whether it makes any difference when I start looking, has yet to be seen. I won't be expecting any advantages when the time comes. The sim time was "golden" to me because it cost 9G...don't know if it was really worth that much, but they were very good courses. Students now take an RJ course for 3500, instead of the two courses we had (I suppose there were alot of complaints about the cost).
Caliginous...sorry to hear about your problems with the multi. Oddly enough...it's because the regionals are hiring all of our experienced MEI's. I'm one of about 20 MEI's that are getting standardized in the Seminole now here in DAB...there are still alot of multi students waiting. The new Pt 142 courses are multi-intensive...so we need alot more multi CFI's and seminoles. There are alot of jerks at the AZ campus? I know they've weeded out most of the bad apples here...most of the current instructor corps were students not all that long ago...we know how it is.
I'm not hired elsewhere yet because I haven't really started looking...want to finish my MBA first, and as long as I'm working here, the university pays for it. Most of the more experienced guys and gals are being hired pretty quickly. I figure I'll have well over the mins by the time I finish up next year. Another year in Daytona (that's 7!!), but it's not so bad. Starting to look around though...don't know if I want to take the regional route...I've always been interested in cargo and/or Pt 135...both flying and managing.
-Brock Sargeant
MEII
Check_Six
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Erau
Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents...
Its seems that the biggest advantage of attending Embry-Riddle is obtained by those seeking to immerse themselves in aviation. Not all students are there to be pilots, but they at least have some interest in the aviation world be it business, engineering, etc. I figure that a person wanting to spend their college years surrounded by aviation-oriented people, courses, and opportunities (intership programs, etc.) would find the experience well worth the money. Maybe not the best way to plan for a medical issue later in life, but their choice nonetheless.
A lot of us in this forum talk about how much Riddle costs and how you're just paying for a name, but in reality attending any private institution is expensive. And eveyone on this forum has paid for a name at one time or another. Some examples being buying Nike anything, eating real Fruit Loops instead of Malt-O-Meal, and using Charmin instead of, well...you get the point. I spent my freshman year at a liberal arts school in the midwest and the tuition alone was $15,000 but to me it was worth every penny because I learned a lot, had a great time, and got to be a CFI at the local airport
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..." (a.k.a. How much is attending Riddle worth to YOU)
Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents...
Its seems that the biggest advantage of attending Embry-Riddle is obtained by those seeking to immerse themselves in aviation. Not all students are there to be pilots, but they at least have some interest in the aviation world be it business, engineering, etc. I figure that a person wanting to spend their college years surrounded by aviation-oriented people, courses, and opportunities (intership programs, etc.) would find the experience well worth the money. Maybe not the best way to plan for a medical issue later in life, but their choice nonetheless.
A lot of us in this forum talk about how much Riddle costs and how you're just paying for a name, but in reality attending any private institution is expensive. And eveyone on this forum has paid for a name at one time or another. Some examples being buying Nike anything, eating real Fruit Loops instead of Malt-O-Meal, and using Charmin instead of, well...you get the point. I spent my freshman year at a liberal arts school in the midwest and the tuition alone was $15,000 but to me it was worth every penny because I learned a lot, had a great time, and got to be a CFI at the local airport
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..." (a.k.a. How much is attending Riddle worth to YOU)
caliginousface
Frank N. Beans
Check_Six said:Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents...
Its seems that the biggest advantage of attending Embry-Riddle is obtained by those seeking to immerse themselves in aviation. Not all students are there to be pilots, but they at least have some interest in the aviation world be it business, engineering, etc. I figure that a person wanting to spend their college years surrounded by aviation-oriented people, courses, and opportunities (intership programs, etc.) would find the experience well worth the money. Maybe not the best way to plan for a medical issue later in life, but their choice nonetheless.
A lot of us in this forum talk about how much Riddle costs and how you're just paying for a name, but in reality attending any private institution is expensive. And eveyone on this forum has paid for a name at one time or another. Some examples being buying Nike anything, eating real Fruit Loops instead of Malt-O-Meal, and using Charmin instead of, well...you get the point. I spent my freshman year at a liberal arts school in the midwest and the tuition alone was $15,000 but to me it was worth every penny because I learned a lot, had a great time, and got to be a CFI at the local airport
heh, definitely not worth the 100k+ i'll owe, i'm out of here. plus man if i lose an eye with a degree in aviation i wont have very many options.
Looking4Lower
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Mike Lewis said:
DO THE PUYALLUP! That stupid State Fair song gets stuck in your head and stays there for YEARS.
You're also a Washintonian when you can pronounce Sequim correctly.