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As noted in another thread, I just finished Eisenhower on Leadership by Axelrod (no kin). It is worth reading.

In the book, the author demonstrates how Eisenhower was able to LEAD the coalition forces although he was constantly challenged. He made some difficult decisions that did not sit well with his superiors, subordinates and some political figures. Still, he was willing to put it on the line and accept responsibility if the decisions and actions resulted in failure. It is interesting in that he often uses "I" when expressing doubts or asking questions but "We" when he talks about achievement and accomplishments. No "I" or glory hunting.

Eisenhower had to deal with very different individuals including two famous ones, Montgomery and Patton. Still Eisenhower knew they were both capable of producing results. He also made it quite plain without bluster or insult that he would and COULD replace them if necessary. Defeating Germany was a larger task than assuaging their egos.

It is also interesting in that Eisenhower and others were able to repulse efforts to focus on Japan early on although it was Japan that brought the US into the war. Eisenhower and others argued that the Pacific could wait but if Europe was lost, with it England and Russia would be lost and that could not happen without losing the entire war.

A good read
 
Excellent synopsis...
As noted in another thread, I just finished Eisenhower on Leadership by Axelrod (no kin). It is worth reading.

In the book, the author demonstrates how Eisenhower was able to LEAD the coalition forces although he was constantly challenged. He made some difficult decisions that did not sit well with his superiors, subordinates and some political figures. Still, he was willing to put it on the line and accept responsibility if the decisions and actions resulted in failure. It is interesting in that he often uses "I" when expressing doubts or asking questions but "We" when he talks about achievement and accomplishments. No "I" or glory hunting.

Eisenhower had to deal with very different individuals including two famous ones, Montgomery and Patton. Still Eisenhower knew they were both capable of producing results. He also made it quite plain without bluster or insult that he would and COULD replace them if necessary. Defeating Germany was a larger task than assuaging their egos.

It is also interesting in that Eisenhower and others were able to repulse efforts to focus on Japan early on although it was Japan that brought the US into the war. Eisenhower and others argued that the Pacific could wait but if Europe was lost, with it England and Russia would be lost and that could not happen without losing the entire war.

A good read
 
I like Ike - from a history perspective, and as a guy.

Interesting thing in Neustadt's seminal text on the presidency - he points out how Eisenhower had difficulty in his role as president. It stemmed primarily from the fact that he never really wanted to be president, but secondly, because of the change in his actual command. As a general, when Eisenhower gave a command, the probability of it being carried out was near 100%. As president, however, the probability was closer to 80%. And if it had to be passed to another level, the probability of it occurring was 64% (0.8 x 0.8) and so forth.

It frustrated Eisenhower to no end. Good man - but probably too good for that job. Much like Obama. Yes, I said it :D
 
Interesting thing in Neustadt's seminal text on the presidency - he points out how Eisenhower had difficulty in his role as president.

No doubt about the difficulty of leading in the military and trying to lead in politics.
It frustrated Eisenhower to no end. Good man - but probably too good for that job. Much like Obama. Yes, I said it :D

I agree except coming from a different perspective. Obama is used to adulation and playing on a smaller field. I believe he mis-underestimated :D the opposition he would encounter and he has never had to be a real major league leader.

I also believe he will be a one term president and he will be pleased when it happens. He will move on to other endeavors where once again he will not encounter such forceful opposition and will be hailed much like Clinton and Carter for initiatives without regard for accomplishments. I could be wrong.
 
I don't consider myself a history buff (i.e. not very knowledgeable about Eisenhower, etc.) but I have always been amazed when I read the letter he wrote for distribution were the D-Day invasion to fail.

I'm grateful for that kind of leadership at such a critical juncture in history, and lament the incongruity between that and...well...what's on the news. :(
 
I don't consider myself a history buff (i.e. not very knowledgeable about Eisenhower, etc.) but I have always been amazed when I read the letter he wrote for distribution were the D-Day invasion to fail.

I'm grateful for that kind of leadership at such a critical juncture in history, and lament the incongruity between that and...well...what's on the news. :(

Just remember that we tend to have a hard on for our past leaders, and that they weren't subject to the same media scrutiny/slander that our current leaders are. FDR went his entire presidency in a wheelchair without anyone really noticing. Obama is accused of being a fill-in in the Whoomp Their It Is video.
 
"The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."
--Excerpt from the aforementioned letter.

Can you imagine our current administration (or Congress) taking responsibility in such a manner? The President, Reid, or Pelosi, or any of them--can you picture them saying, "This was *my* fault." (?) Especially about something for which no one could predict the outcome, and which everyone knew had a significant probability of failure?

I stated that I don't know that much about Eisenhower. I'm not an acolyte. I just think that the tone of that letter is dramatically different from the finger-pointing, demonizing, pandering and sound bite promulgation that currently masquerades as leadership. That's my opinion. :D
 
I liked the WWII Eisenhower, but I'm not the biggest fan of the Cold War Eisenhower.

I'm a fan of action hero Eisenhower...

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I don't consider myself a history buff (i.e. not very knowledgeable about Eisenhower, etc.) but I have always been amazed when I read the letter he wrote for distribution were the D-Day invasion to fail.

I'm grateful for that kind of leadership at such a critical juncture in history, and lament the incongruity between that and...well...what's on the news. :(

Actually it was not the first letter. Ike normally destroyed or disposed of similar letters for earlier invasions and operations. He put this note in his field jacket and forgot about it until after the invasion. He pulled it out and a subordinate asked to keep it. Otherwise it would have been lost to history. But it does demonstrate his willingness to put it all on the line.
 
I liked the WWII Eisenhower, but I'm not the biggest fan of the Cold War Eisenhower.

I will have to read more. Apparently the 'snooze' that enveloped the US after WWII and Korea was not as quiet and snoozy as often depicted. There was a LOT going on beneath the surface.. not the least of which was our return to what was French Indo-China. A great deal of the equipment was provided by the US and after Ike had played nice with the overbearing and arrogant DeGaulle, Ike turned him down reportedly when DeGaulle asked for a nuke to save Dien Binh Phu. Degaulle would remember.

We had essentially given the French a wad of AD Skyraiders. We requested the French give back or sell them back to us as our involvement increased in Vietnam. The French refused and cut the airplanes up rather than return them.

And there was considerbly more intrigue in other parts of the world including Powers getting shot down and the B-47s and B-45s roaming around and in Russia.
 
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