TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
wow... just saw the autocorrect, no dismantlement here please... just disappointment. 
9L, 9E, XJ JCBA executive summary
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kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Just for the hell of it, I looked at my month so far as if it were under the new agreement. I've been escalated from home reserve to RR TWICE this week. I'm looking at 11 scheduled for the month. Under the new TA, they could only tag me for 10 total unless all the other reserves had also been tagged for 10. They escalated me from home to RR twice earlier in the month, so I would have already hit the limit for same day escalations, too. Based on the min day, I'd be 5 hours from guarantee under the new TA. Currently, I'm almost 20. Never let anyone say soft pay doesn't make a difference. On top of that, the escalations would have me crediting 78 hours anyway.
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
I ran my January line like that. Credit increased to just under 100 hours for the bid period with only 84 hours of scheduled flying.
Also ran the numbers with the new payscale just for comparison to where I am now... let's just say I'm sold
Tram
Well-Known Member
I ran my January line like that. Credit increased to just under 100 hours for the bid period with only 84 hours of scheduled flying.
Also ran the numbers with the new payscale just for comparison to where I am now... let's just say I'm sold
Man, if i could credit 95 hours a month, much less 100, I'd be all over that....
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Wanna good laugh? Look at the open time for Jan. A LOT of lineholders got high credit lines with 10-11 days off. Super senior guys in MEM bid reserve to get a build up line because they got MORE DAYS OFF than with a hard line. Open time for Jan is 1800+ for CAs and 2100+ for FOs. Good freakin' luck getting it covered. Even at 200% it won't get covered. Guys just aren't legal to pick it up.
Under the new TA, that much open time wouldn't even be allowed. It would force them to build more hard lines.
Under the new TA, that much open time wouldn't even be allowed. It would force them to build more hard lines.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
That will be problematic. Either Pinnacle will have to hire tons more, or just about every Pinnnacle pilot will be looking at 10-12 days off per month with 90-95 hr lines. And we already saw what happens when they try to hire "a lot." Crazy bottleneck effect. They were too blind to see they could have a problem, you know, with one sim down, instructors flying the line. Common sense could have prevented the problem with some proactive thinking and action taken a lil bit sooner.
L-16B
Well-Known Member
Wow that's just sad.... At 9L, EWR has the best lines (and the most) of any base we have. Typically, more than half the lines have 15 or more days off, so it's not too bad. January, however, has a lot of 11 day off lines (we normally never have any of these) as we are so short on FO's (so much in fact they are letting junior FO's upgrade in classes ahead of me since they can't "afford" to let me upgrade yet as the Q is so short on FO's). We don't know anything about PBS here, so I'm sure it's gonna be a learning curve. But my question is shouldn't the super senior guys at Pinnacle be able to bid super productive pairings (if that's even an option in your PBS bidding software) thus maximizing days off?
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
You see January? Most guys are looking at 10-12 days off and we've still got 1800 hours of open time for CAs and 2100 for FOs system wide. We had fairly senior guys in MEM bid reserve to get a build up line because they could get more days off on a build up than they could with a regular line. I think we've gone about as low as we can without hiring tons more. Plus, if everyone had 10-12 days off with 95 hour lines, they'd HAVE to hire more or make more hard lines. No one could pick up anything even if they offered it at 500%. They wouldn't be legal. The "if we hire in the summer, we'll have to furlough in fall" was a lie only believed by those in the ivory tower over on Nonconnah. 'Course if you never leave the building to see what actually goes on, it's easy to get wrapped around the pure numbers effect, I guess.
As for the "bottleneck," we tried to tell them down in MEM that 2 sims weren't gonna cut what 3 sims couldn't cut before. If FedEx doesn't do it or they don't think of it first, it's a bad idea.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Honestly, we don't have the pilots:block hours ratio to have those days off anymore. You used to be able to pull at least 18 days off if you were in the top 5-10% of your base. Those days are long gone considering we don't have the staffing. They had to keep re-running our line awards this month because it couldn't solve correctly. Not enough pilots with too many block hours. We're flying in January what we normally fly in July/August. If this keeps up, we're gonna need every XJ furlough and even more new guys in summer of 2011 just to keep from imploding.
At some point, our management has to learn to say "No, we don't have the staffing for that many block hours." Unfortunately, they'd rather hope for the best and work us all until we drop than look bad in front of Delta because of lack of planning on their part.
Hernandezcfi
Well-Known Member
Its probably less a lack of planning then the reluctance to increase payroll costs. Typical for the average slave driving corporation!
higney85
Property of Scheduling
*personal belief* They were attempting to hold off on significant hiring in efforts to get the Sli done and the combined staffing of the jet for XJ/9E would have covered their 9E staffing model and all the airframes without raising payroll costs. Unfortunately, and as usual, things didn't work out fast enough AND DL added more flying. "Business as usual". The CEC is packed and if they started back in the spring when pilots were needed and before the purchase lines would remain pretty good with plenty of open time for the holidays that many folks would have picked up at straight pay with some blocks of 150%. Just my thoughts on that...
WalterSobchak
Well-Known Member
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jynxyjoe
Queso King
Hehe.
I particularly like the "Well why didn't you just goto Mesaba in the first place?"
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Not our fault they couldn't meet their own deadlines.
Seriously. If they REALLY wanted it done, it coulda been done in about a week. It's not like we were secretive about what it would take to reach an agreement. It took over a month just to get them to cave on a 4 hour min day. If they even THOUGHT an SLI would be done by Jan, they're delusional. I'll be amazed if this thing is done by May or June. If it manages to not go into arbitration, it's possible, but I'll be amazed if we pull off being that rare exception.
Then again, this company is run on the "Hope for the best.....then freak out when it doesn't happen" philosophy. My schedule this weekend is a perfect example. 1 hour connect times on a DH.....in YYZ....where I have to go through customs twice and security once. Then they had me scheduled for an hour connect in ATL. Result: stuck in YYZ tonight. DH tomorrow with a 50 minute connect to my second DH. Flight is already showing delayed, so now it's a 17 minute connect. Looks like I won't be doing that JAX turn, either.....