787 tail strike

Thanks for posting this...we were watching them test the 78 at MWH earlier this year, and it's cool to see what they were doing.
 
Thank you for posting this video. I have to admit that I am a Boeing w****. lol I have caught the 787 and 747-8 twice at VCV and once at PHX this year and up at PAE when I spent few days up there last month. I have such great hopes and expectations for both of these aircraft.

Boeing announced back in August that they have provisional approval to start pilot training courses for the 787. The provisional approval will become permanent when the 787 achieves final certification. The pilot training program allows pilots to transition to the 787 in as little as 5 days to as many as 20 depending on the level of experience of the pilots. It's Boeing's aim to transition a 777 pilot to the 787 in as little as 5 days due to the commonality that the 787 shares with the 777.

They have already done some flight excercises with pilots from the Japanese Civil Aviation Bureau, EASA and Transport Canada, as well as three from the FAA. All were 777 line pilots from national airlines, and were each taken through a series of flight evaluations including a standard take-off and landing, touch-and-go and landing, take-off with power pulled back on one engine. Other procedures included a simulated single-engine missed approach, and single engine approach with full stop landing.

They all said it flew like a 777, and while some said it was either a bit higher, low or about the same on flare forces, they all landed it on the right speeds, on the numbers and on the centerline.


Here is the sixth Dreamliner and her first test flight:

http://www.boeing.com/Features/2010/10/bca_sixth_787_10_07_10.html

Enjoyed the crosswind landing. Perfect.
 
Boeing test pilot eh? Sounds like a crummy job... lol..

i wonder what those minimums are!!! that guy looked pretty young... (under 60)
25,000total
20,000 boeing jet
probably something along those lines, and the insurance is still probably horrific!
 
ntbjounin said:
Boeing test pilot eh? Sounds like a crummy job... lol..

i wonder what those minimums are!!! that guy looked pretty young... (under 60)
25,000total
20,000 boeing jet
probably something along those lines, and the insurance is still probably horrific!
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its probably less about total time and more about having gone through test pilot school and the ability to master an airplane inside and outside of its performance envelope.
 
casey said:
its probably less about total time and more about having gone through test pilot school and the ability to master an airplane inside and outside of its performance envelope.
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Agreed.....That guy must be an incredible pilot!
 
hambone said:
Careful now, you may get an infraction point for that 'w' word.
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Already been there done that yesterday. lol
Had a dialogue in pms with a very reasonable, understanding and nice Mod from here. Newbieitis.
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Just an FYI

MICHAEL H. CARRIKER

Chief Pilot – 787 Dreamliner Boeing Commercial Airplanes

Capt. Mike Carriker is the chief pilot for the all-new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
Carriker joined The Boeing Company in February 1990 as a production pilot and became senior engineering pilot for the 737 in September 1990. In June 1998, he became chief project pilot for the 737 program.In June 2001, Carriker assumed the title of Sonic Cruiser chief project pilot and in that role transitioned to the 787 program in January 2003.​

Carriker has participated in all Boeing flight test programs since joining the company. For example, he completed more than 500 hours of 777 testing. Carriker served as assistant project pilot for the Joint Strike Fighter program during the design and proposal phases. He also was captain on the first flights of the Boeing Next-Generation 737-600 and 737-900 and first officer for the first flight of the Boeing Business Jet.​

Carriker also flies the 1933 airliner the Boeing 247D and the B-17F for Seattle’s Museum of Flight, the 1940 Boeing 307 and the Boeing Helio-Courier. He has more than 7,500 flight hours.​

Before joining Boeing, Carriker was a U.S. Navy pilot, flying A7-Es and F18s. He has more than 300 carrier landings in the A7-E. Carriker is a 1985 graduate of the U.S. Navy Test Pilot School. After a tour as a Navy test pilot, he was an instructor at the U.S. Navy Test Pilot School and an instructor at the Empire Test Pilot School at Boscombe Down, England. In 2002, Carriker received the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Octave Chanute award for outstanding contributions to aeronautics.​

Carriker earned a bachelor’s degree in aeronautical engineering from Wichita State University in 1978. Carriker holds type ratings in all current Boeing production airplanes.
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RANDALL LEE NEVILLE

Engineering Test Pilot – 787 Dreamliner Boeing Commercial Airplanes

Capt. Randy Neville is an engineering test pilot for the all-new Boeing 787 Dreamliner. As an engineering test pilot, Neville conducts flight tests of new airplane designs, establishing the basic airworthiness of the airplane and verifying that it functions as designed.​

Before joining the 787 program in 2005, Neville was an F-22 Raptor test pilot for Boeing Integrated Defense Systems for nine years. Assigned to the F-22 Combined Test Force at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., Neville flew the F-22 as well as the F-16 chase aircraft.​

Neville was the primary pilot responsible for expanding the Raptor’s flight envelope, or maneuverability capabilities, and in 2004.became the first Raptor pilot to reach the 500-hour mark. With more than 600 hours in the F-22, he is still a high-time Raptor pilot. Neville also was a technical advisor in the making of the movie “The Hulk” and played an F-22 fighter pilot in the movie.​

Before joining Boeing, Neville flew for 20 years in the U.S. Air Force, with operational tours in the F-106 and F-16. He attended the U.S. Air Force Test Pilot School at Edwards Air Force Base and spent the next 10 years as an Air Force test pilot. Neville conducted weapons development tests on the F-4 and F-16 at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. His final assignment before retiring from the Air Force was as a T-38 and F-16 instructor and director of Flight Operations for the U.S. Air Force Test Pilot School.
Neville earned a bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering from the University of Tennessee in 1975 and a master’s degree in international relations from Troy State University in 1989.​

Neville holds type ratings in all current Boeing production models. He also has a glider license and more than 6,000 hours flying time in 75 different types of aircraft. Neville is an Associate Fellow in the Society of Experimental Test Pilots, and in 2005 he was awarded the society’s prestigious Iven Kinchloe Award for outstanding professionalism while conducting flight tests.​
 
The video is pretty interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing one flying in person, let alone ride on one. Someday.
 
A Life Aloft said:
. The pilot training program allows pilots to transition to the 787 in as little as 5 days to as many as 20 depending on the level of experience of the pilots. It's Boeing's aim to transition a 777 pilot to the 787 in as little as 5 days due to the commonality that the 787 shares with the 777.


They all said it flew like a 777, and while some said it was either a bit higher, low or about the same on flare forces, they all landed it on the right speeds, on the numbers and on the centerline.
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Carriker was one of the presenters at the Boeing briefing at Farnborough this past summer. He mentioned Boeing having some triple-7 pilots fly the 787 with little to no training and they all said, "Flies like the triple-7' which is just what Boeing wanted.

They were very careful to NOT call it 'cross crew qualification' but with training, the type rating will be 777/787 like the 757/767. Carriker also answered questions about the 787 FBW and a side stick. He said customers had not asked for it but more, with the intent for it to be a dual type rating a side stick in one and a yoke in the other would create problems they didn't want to argue.

A very approachable fellow.
 
Orange Anchor said:
Carriker was one of the presenters at the Boeing briefing at Farnborough this past summer. He mentioned Boeing having some triple-7 pilots fly the 787 with little to no training and they all said, "Flies like the triple-7' which is just what Boeing wanted.

They were very careful to NOT call it 'cross crew qualification' but with training, the type rating will be 777/787 like the 757/767. Carriker also answered questions about the 787 FBW and a side stick. He said customers had not asked for it but more, with the intent for it to be a dual type rating a side stick in one and a yoke in the other would create problems they didn't want to argue.

A very approachable fellow.
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Thanks for the info. I had heard the same info regarding a side stick as well. All the guys at Boeing that I know and have met are terrific. I had the opportunity to meet and speak to Mark Feuerstein, the Chief Pilot for the 747-8 when I made a pilgrimage up there this year and he's just a really nice, very intelligent guy with a great sense of humor.

How did you enjoy Farnborough? I have never attended, so I am dead jealous. I have in the distant past (and I mean distant lol) attended the Paris Air Show twice and OSH twice (also a while back and I am hoping to go to OSH next year). What was the response, i.e. general "feel" among those to the Dreamliner, if you got a sense of that? Did you get to see Joe Sutter there by chance? He is one of my heros. An amazing engineer and person and the Daddy of my beloved 747. He looks great for being like 88 or 89 years old and still sharp as a tack. If you ever get the chance to read his book, (if you haven't already) it's a marvelous story.

If you have the time or the inclination to share, what were some of the 'wow' moments for you at the show?
 
That was pretty sweet. I was expecting it to drag for a much longer period of time though. I have fallen in love with that birds wings!
 
A Life Aloft said:
How did you enjoy Farnborough?
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For me it is a lot of work but Farnborough and Paris are two great shows. EVERYONE shows up, military, general aviation and airline. Normally the big displays pit the big fighters against each other. This year it was the C-130J versus the A400M and some questioned the routines as they were quite aggressive as in...

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The Dreamliner was well received but it flew in, it flew out. No displays during the show. And getting onboard was like passing an enhanced TSA security check. I met Carriker at the Boeing briefing and spoke with him afterwards about the setbacks and the sidesticks. I was impressed that he didn't dance the issues. Didn't meet the other guys you mentioned.

Personally I think the shows have tamed a bit, especially after the MiG-29 crash at Paris years ago. That changed the routines a lot and pushed the displays higher. Before that crash high alpha passes at low altitude were routine as were high speed work down low.

The funny thing is many of the staff for the exhibits practically hate the trek for all the shows, Dubai, China, Moscow, EBACE, NBAA, etc. And you can understand it if you have been to a few. And the increased security is a hassle. Don't try to just walk in one of the display areas. You have to be 'badged' and once 'badged' don't try to leave with the badge.

This year was the first show for the JF-17 that China has developed for Pakistan. But due to air force paperwork not being complete, it did not fly. Interesting little bird with both English and Chinese markings on the fuselage and various points.

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