737 goes down off Hawaii
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BEEF SUPREME
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The virtual airline is so cautious, it diverts even with no fuel leaks. Have to PROTECT THE KIDS!
Shut down an engine to reduce the carbon footprint!
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I guess now that I've sat and thought about a few things and have read the report over again.
Engines don't normally go "splat" at V1. We train these things that way because they're the worst case in terms of aircraft performance and pilot ability each, not because it's a terribly realistic case. But it also makes the failure, and failed engine, itself incredibly obvious. That might not actually help with the more mundane task of recognizing which one's misbehaving but still producing some thrust (1.4 ish EPR, in the accident case while MCT was apparently 1.91). It might behoove operators and the regulator to introduce more banal ("Engine Limit, Surge or Stall;" emphasis deliberate) cases -- like this one -- to initial and continuing qualification. As lame as this sounds, recognition without a crew alerting system telling you which one is out isn't a "nothing" topic too.
If I were King, the pilot flying would be the one who would move the thrust lever/throttle/whatever to idle for obvious reasons of recognition of "whoops, wrong one." Rhoades apparently did adopt this as procedure.
EPR is a stupid way to indicate engine thrust. If the fan is rotating at ordered RPM, it's producing the thrust you're demanding.
Then there's this, which, well, yeah. Glad the FAA closed the barn door after the house got out, as regards the operator:
Engines don't normally go "splat" at V1. We train these things that way because they're the worst case in terms of aircraft performance and pilot ability each, not because it's a terribly realistic case. But it also makes the failure, and failed engine, itself incredibly obvious. That might not actually help with the more mundane task of recognizing which one's misbehaving but still producing some thrust (1.4 ish EPR, in the accident case while MCT was apparently 1.91). It might behoove operators and the regulator to introduce more banal ("Engine Limit, Surge or Stall;" emphasis deliberate) cases -- like this one -- to initial and continuing qualification. As lame as this sounds, recognition without a crew alerting system telling you which one is out isn't a "nothing" topic too.
If I were King, the pilot flying would be the one who would move the thrust lever/throttle/whatever to idle for obvious reasons of recognition of "whoops, wrong one." Rhoades apparently did adopt this as procedure.
EPR is a stupid way to indicate engine thrust. If the fan is rotating at ordered RPM, it's producing the thrust you're demanding.
Then there's this, which, well, yeah. Glad the FAA closed the barn door after the house got out, as regards the operator:
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VNAV monitor
we do this at my place. not sure if that’s aligned with Airbus procedures or not. We do some things their way and some our own.
ASpilot2be
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We do the same here on Bigfoot. PF controls the A/T arm switches and the thrust lever.
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VNAV monitor
You’re a brand traitor though.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
True. I miss the Airbus. At least I went with the airplane closest to the Airbus.
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ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
Ouch. You had to go there didn't you?
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VNAV monitor
You did it to yourself, bruh!
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
True. But now I don't have to call to use the bathroom. So I got that going for me.
///AMG
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I like making captains feel old when they ask if I need a bathroom break after hour 3, and I just say "nah." And then drink another service cart sized water carton in a single motion.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
You drink that cardboard $h!t? Grooooossssss
///AMG
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I actually buy it wholesale in my personal life and stockpile it in my garage fridge
BEEF SUPREME
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WWWWHHHHHHYYYYYYY!!!??????
///AMG
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Do you not even hydrate bro???!!!!
I bet you have committed various King county felonies with your APU usage as well......
BEEF SUPREME
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Do you not even hydrate bro???!!!!
I bet you have committed various King county felonies with your APU usage as well......
I laugh at your carbon credits!!!!
Do you not even hydrate bro???!!!!
I bet you have committed various King county felonies with your APU usage as well......
I bet you eat MREs too. Or at a minimum, Midrats.
BEEF SUPREME
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///AMG
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You haven't had rats have you Mike? I wish I could take you for a tour, after a 0200 trap following an 8 hr mission in that stupid tiny cockpit with no snacks, it is the best food known to man.