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Just don't fail again.

Seriously.

If you got a pink slip, it's accessible on your airman record and any interviewer worth his dollar would ask, "So, how do you handle failure? Do you quit, or regroup and press forward?"
 
brian.sloan said:
Well thanks to the people that actually had some helpful input. The reason I am looking for something else besides CFI is because I have failed my CFI ride twice now and I really don't want to take the chance of having 3 fails on my record. I failed the oral at the very end during my explanation on aerodynamics. I came back to see him the second time and he said congrats you passed the oral awesome job, but we cant fly because someone let the plane roll back into another plane and damaged the tail section. 2 weeks later I go back and pre-flight the plane and am ready to go. We were filling out the paper work and he said he would like me to do a w/b. No big deal I thought. Well I did the weight and balance with the charts in the Cessna POH and he said that was fine, but what was the formula to do it without the charts. Well unfortunately I was never taught this method and if I was I dont recall it, so he failed me again. He said that fails cannot be accessed by airlines and it was up to me to inform them of my fails, but from what I read online that looks to be false. Either way I am not sure and just want to find another way to get to 500 hours if its possible. Thanks again for the help.
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I think you should at least go finish your CFI, even if you don't ever use it. I think it would look worse to have 2 fails and a "give up" than 3 fails on your record. Good luck... Under 500TT jobs are out there, just have to keep your eyes open and pound doors till you find them.
 
The CFI initial is by no means an easy checkride, it was the only one I have busted.

Failing the same ride more than once isn't going to be the end of the world. To be fair, calculating W&B with moments and arms (and as %MAC) is something you should know.

Learn from it, study what you are weak in, and get it done.

Getting a job with 2 checkride busts isn't impossible, but getting a good job with 300 hours will be.

If you are that worried about busting another one, pay a DPE to prep you for the next one.
 
As far as Traffic Watch goes, I don't know about Ohio, but here in the Bay Area its 500TT for insurance reasons.
 
well either way you will have to explain the failures so its better to have gotten the CFI then then to have given up on it. Which would you rather hire someone who failed a few times but eventually got his CFI or someone who gave up? I know how I would hire. And its not the person who gave up, it just shows your cant deal with life/failure.
 
Der_Meister said:
well either way you will have to explain the failures so its better to have gotten the CFI then then to have given up on it. Which would you rather hire someone who failed a few times but eventually got his CFI or someone who gave up? I know how I would hire. And its not the person who gave up, it just shows your cant deal with life/failure.
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I don't know about this. I failed my CFII ride and then had to leave town for a bit. By the time I got back and got on the schedule my NOD had expired and I didn't have the money to go through all the training I needed to get signed off again. Not always so black and white...just sayin.
 
If you're just CFI for the sole purpose of hours for the magic light number for regionals but have no passion or desire to do it I dont consider that a true CFI. God I hated that...

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Der_Meister said:
well either way you will have to explain the failures so its better to have gotten the CFI then then to have given up on it. Which would you rather hire someone who failed a few times but eventually got his CFI or someone who gave up? I know how I would hire. And its not the person who gave up, it just shows your cant deal with life/failure.
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Not sure I would say that getting a CFI is the pinnacle of aviation achievements. That's a pretty expensive ride to fail. There's nothing wrong with waiting to get a CFI until you have more experience under your belt. If I were interviewing someone who scratched and clawed their way through a commercial and bachelor's degree by working two jobs... and decided to fly jumpers instead of continuing with a CFI, I'm not sure I'd hold that against them.
 
ryan1234 said:
Not sure I would say that getting a CFI is the pinnacle of aviation achievements. That's a pretty expensive ride to fail. There's nothing wrong with waiting to get a CFI until you have more experience under your belt. If I were interviewing someone who scratched and clawed their way through a commercial and bachelor's degree by working two jobs... and decided to fly jumpers instead of continuing with a CFI, I'm not sure I'd hold that against them.
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true but wouldn't you wonder why someone who went up for the ride and didnt pass it, didnt try and pass it? It doesn't matter if they CFI or not after that but giving up because you failed it is not the way to go.
 
nocturnalaviator said:
If you're just CFI for the sole purpose of hours for the magic light number for regionals but have no passion or desire to do it I dont consider that a true CFI. God I hated that...
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Just remember, you might not have the passion or desire to do it until you actually try it. Like I said in my other post, that's how it was for me. Once I started, I really liked it.
 
Now that everyone has had their input on why or why I shouldn't become a CFI, can someone maybe try and provide information on the reason I posted this thread? Does anyone have any input on NON CFI JOBS.

-Brian

ps. I want to finish my CFI, and will, but in the mean while I wouldn't mind having options. Thanks.
 
brian.sloan said:
Now that everyone has had their input on why or why I shouldn't become a CFI, can someone maybe try and provide information on the reason I posted this thread? Does anyone have any input on NON CFI JOBS.

-Brian

ps. I want to finish my CFI, and will, but in the mean while I wouldn't mind having options. Thanks.
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Dude we already gave you the info on the other jobs, not sure what other info you want.
 
Retail, Fast food, waiting tables.... I realize they are not flying jobs, but other then the jobs already stated there is not much below 500. I worked retail for about a year 1.5 after I got my commercial before I got a job flying. Its sucks but it pays the bills and keeps you in the air from time to time.
 
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