5 hour rule for MEI's as it applies to ATP instructi

A150K

A150K

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So does it apply? I've been trying to find someone among my MEI rated friends to give me the three hours of training I'll need to take my ATP ride in a Twin Commanche I'm borrowing from someone and one of them brought up the 5 hour rule as the reason he can't do it. I had always thought it only applied to stuff such as a CMEL or MEI ride, but not something like an IPC, BFR, or instruction towards an ATP...However, I did check 61.195(f) and it pretty clearly states: : (f) Training received in a multiengine airplane, a helicopter, or a powered-lift. A flight instructor may not give training required for the issuance of a certificate or rating in a multiengine airplane, a helicopter, or a powered-lift unless that flight instructor has at least 5 flight hours of pilot-in-command time in the specific make and model of multiengine airplane, helicopter, or powered-lift, as appropriate.

So am I correct to assume that what I've heard from others is incorrect and that my MEI will need 5 PIC in a Twin Commanche to give me the dual required or is there something I'm missing..
 
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I thought you could just present yourself for an ATP ride. I know there's no instructor endorsement required. You specifically need 3 hours of dual given towards an ATP?
(too lazy to go read part 61 myself)
 
No endorsement needed, but best to practice the maneuvers with a knowledgeable instructor?
 
I don't think it matters what the instruction is for, there should be plenty of people with 5 PIC in this particular multiengine aircraft
 
The ATP ride doesn't require a sign off from a MEI at all.

So your "buddy" can "supervise and critique" your pre checkride prep regardless if he has any CFI certificate, much less 5 hours make and model.
 
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