2 FAA bank questions

Cherokee_Cruiser

Cherokee_Cruiser

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To any FAA test question gurus out there, I would appreciate help on two questions.

1. Steady precipitation with little turbulence precedes what type of front?

Warm, Cold, Occluded, or Stationary?


My educated guess is warm front. Anyone know for sure?


2. Tendency of an aircraft to continue from its original state of equilibrium after it has been displaced, displays what stability... ?

Positive static, Neutral static, or Negative static ?

I'm kinda confused on this one. It sounds like it could go either way, neutral or negative static. Does this question say that the aircraft *remains* in the new position (neutral), or does it *continue farther and farther* from its original state (negative)??

Any help appreciated.

Thanks guys!
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
To any FAA test question gurus out there, I would appreciate help on two questions.

1. Steady precipitation with little turbulence precedes what type of front?

Warm, Cold, Occluded, or Stationary?


My educated guess is warm front. Anyone know for sure?


2. Tendency of an aircraft to continue from its original state of equilibrium after it has been displaced, displays what stability... ?

Positive static, Neutral static, or Negative static ?

I'm kinda confused on this one. It sounds like it could go either way, neutral or negative static. Does this question say that the aircraft *remains* in the new position (neutral), or does it *continue farther and farther* from its original state (negative)??

Any help appreciated.

Thanks guys!
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1. I would say Warm Front.

2. Negative Static
 
Ask your JetU instructors.

You are paying the money to go there and have them instruct you, so have them do it!
 
I saw the title of the thread and though, "Geez . . . we start talking about privatization of the FAA and now they're in the banking biz"!!!

:D
 
Wow. The hatred. I didn't realize it was a crime to get a second opinion.


vheissu, I agree with warm, and for the 2nd answer, you are sure it's negative static?
 
come on, thats not nice guys...

yes Cherookee, its negative... the key word here is continue... things don't continue back to starting point. neutral doesn't continue at all... so it would be negative stability
 
I'm calling it the way it is.

Many on here told Cherokee_Cruiser it would be a bad idea to go to Jet U, he didn't listen and went there. No hatred for him personally, or his goals. An instructor should be able to answer those questions.
 
Seggy said:
I'm calling it the way it is.

Many on here told Cherokee_Cruiser it would be a bad idea to go to Jet U, he didn't listen and went there. No hatred for him personally, or his goals. An instructor should be able to answer those questions.
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Sorry seggy, I like you but I do think that you're out of line.

just because cc made a decision contrary to what was posted on this resource doesn't mean that we get to treat a member like crap forever because of it.

i've made poor decisions too, but thats part of learning; so, let's be productive and answer the question here instead of jabs and attacks- you don't see me jumping on your ALPA/union posts (even if i do or don't agree with them). Show the same respect man....

Okay so on to the question at hand....

1. Steady precipitation with little turbulence precedes what type of front?

Warm, Cold, Occluded, or Stationary?

Steady precipitation with little turbulence generally precedes a warm front. Why? Well, the warm air is overriding colder air, which means it is rising gradually, condensing into visible moisture as it cools at higher altitudes.

The warm air rides up the slope of the colder airmass, which means that this condensation occurs at higher altitudes ahead of the frontal boundary at the surface. that is where the precipitation is occurring...ahead of the frontal boundary at the surface. It is steady because of the fairly uniform properties of the mass of air it is overriding - think about upslope fog - pretty much the same theory. That push up the mountain or whatever makes the clouds, and in this case steady precipitation.

Why little turbulence? Well, it's assumed that you are still in the cold air mass when the rain/precipitation begins to reach you. Warm air rises = bumpy, cooler air has less of a tendency to rise generally speaking.



2. Tendency of an aircraft to continue from its original state of equilibrium after it has been displaced, displays what stability... ?

Positive static, Neutral static, or Negative static ?

There are really 6 different parts of stability - 2 categories (static or dynamic) and 3 conditions (positive, neutral, and negative.).

Static is the INITIAL tendency of an object to return to its original position. Take a ball for example. If we put it at the bottom of a bowl it stays there, but if we move it to the side of the bowl, its INITIAL tendency is to return to the bottom of the bowl (positive static).

Put the ball on the floor, move the ball to the side of where it was placed; it has the INITIAL tendency to neither get closer to nor further away from its original position (neutral static).

Put the ball at the apex of a hill, move the ball from the apex and its INITIAL tendency is to move away from the apex even further (negative static).

Now dynamic stability is the tendency of an object do move over time.

If we take part of the examples above, POSITIVE DYNAMIC STABILITY would be for the oscillations of the ball in the bowl to decrease over time. We moved the ball to the side of the bowl, but over time the magnitude of how high the ball rolls up the side of the bowl get smaller (mostly due to friction and gravity). This would actually be representative of an object with positive static, positive dynamic stability.

NEUTRAL DYNAMIC STABILITY can be demonstrated with a metronome. You play an instrument and want to keep time with it, so we move the arm of the metronome to the side and it swings back and forth back and forth, but it continues to swing equally side to side. The oscillations neither get bigger or smaller over time. You could also think of a pendulum clock in the same manner, or a sine wave. This would be representative of an object that is positively static (coming towards its original position), neutrally dynamic.

Finally, NEGATIVE DYNAMIC STABILITY, would be for the object to diverge farther and farther from its original position over time. Over time the oscillations get bigger and bigger and if they are passing by their original position it would be positively static, negatively dynamic stability.

Hope this clears things up, it sometimes is easier with pictures too.
 
Seggy said:
I'm calling it the way it is.

Many on here told Cherokee_Cruiser it would be a bad idea to go to Jet U, he didn't listen and went there. No hatred for him personally, or his goals. An instructor should be able to answer those questions.
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Come on Seggy. Should we all stop asking questions because we all have/had instructors?

He can go wherever he wants. Whether it be local FBO, or overpriced, highly pointless Jet U. He is just asking for help. Sometimes when people ask about a place, they have most likely have made up their mind... he probably was just hoping for some positive thoughts and he didn't get what he expected, yet he had already made his decision.
 
This is what happens when *certain* people start responding with emotion, and no brain thought.

taseal and moxiepilot, I thank you guys both for your help. I, too, agree with warm front. As for the second question, I understand now that it's negative static.


He can go wherever he wants. Whether it be local FBO, or overpriced, highly pointless Jet U. He is just asking for help. Sometimes when people ask about a place, they have most likely have made up their mind... he probably was just hoping for some positive thoughts and he didn't get what he expected, yet he had already made his decision.
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In retrospect, I should have gone elsewhere. For now I won't say anything else until I leave the said place in question. I did not go to Gulfstream because I thought it was weird that you have to pay all that money to sit for 250 hrs in a 1900. That almost feels like buying a job. All I wanted was a transition course to further my own credentials to the point I could get interviews as a result of the CRJ course. I had my choices narrowed down to CAE's program, Jet U, Flight Safety's Direct Track program, and ALLATPs RJ course. All of these are just RJ transition courses, that give you interview upon completion. I understand that these courses aren't liked by folks here, and that's cool. That wasn't my point. My point was that I was looking for opinions on these questions, because I got conflicting information on some of the answers. Hence, I came here for a second opinion.


To those who answered (moxie, taseal, and vheissu), I thank you for your answers.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
This is what happens when *certain* people start responding with emotion, and no brain thought.

taseal and moxiepilot, I thank you guys both for your help. I, too, agree with warm front. As for the second question, I understand now that it's negative static.




In retrospect, I should have gone elsewhere. For now I won't say anything else until I leave the said place in question. I did not go to Gulfstream because I thought it was weird that you have to pay all that money to sit for 250 hrs in a 1900. That almost feels like buying a job. All I wanted was a transition course to further my own credentials to the point I could get interviews as a result of the CRJ course. I had my choices narrowed down to CAE's program, Jet U, Flight Safety's Direct Track program, and ALLATPs RJ course. All of these are just RJ transition courses, that give you interview upon completion. I understand that these courses aren't liked by folks here, and that's cool. That wasn't my point. My point was that I was looking for opinions on these questions, because I got conflicting information on some of the answers. Hence, I came here for a second opinion.


To those who answered (moxie, taseal, and vheissu), I thank you for your answers.
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now that we answered your question, I guess I can say my thoughts about Jet U (or any bridge program actually) I'm not too familiar with the course, but you don't get a type rating. Instead you get a detail crash course on the CRJ and learn alot about it. but not enough to have a check ride oral on....

many people do these bridge type courses, and when they put it in their resume, they show that they have knowledge about the subject.... When the interviewer captain, FO see this, they ask about some questions regarding the CRJ. sometimes they can be tough questions (can you run the cofee maker with the APU running?) and you flop 1 question, and one after another.... this just looks bad.

But again, good luck with the program :) its out of FXE right? I live around there...
 
If you think wanting to know if you can run the coffee maker off the APU is a tough question, you've got another thing coming and you'll need MUCH more than an RJ transition course to help you along.

Seriously.
 
"In retrospect, I should have gone elsewhere."

Yeah, the answer to the first one is in a book called "Aviation weather" and the answer to the second one is in a book called "Pilots handbook of aeronautical knowledge". Both can be downloaded for free at www.faa.gov
 
Cherokee_Cruiser you decided to go to a training program that 99.9999999% of the members on here said it was a bad idea. You went there, even though other options were open against the advice of the members.

The members on Jetcareers SHOULD be listened to, there was no conflicting information coming from here.

Yes, we all make mistakes, but there are avoidable mistakes. Your training program was one of those avoidable ones.

I look forward to your write up about Jet U and hope others learn from your mistake.
 
Yeah, the answer to the first one is in a book called "Aviation weather" and the answer to the second one is in a book called "Pilots handbook of aeronautical knowledge". Both can be downloaded for free at www.faa.gov
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Thanks, but now I have the answers.


Cherokee_Cruiser you decided to go to a training program that 99.9999999% of the members on here said it was a bad idea. You went there, even though other options were open against the advice of the members.

The members on Jetcareers SHOULD be listened to, there was no conflicting information coming from here.

Yes, we all make mistakes, but there are avoidable mistakes. Your training program was one of those avoidable ones.
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Well, the difference is that people were against the idealogy of a CRJ course. Everyone here was all for CFIing or traffic bannering, etc. Once I was set on doing a transition type course, I got no help from this site. Why? Because everyone was against the *idealogy* of low timers being in airliner cockpits. So, I could only take the advice here with a grain of salt. The thing I needed help was deciding between CAE's CRJ program, FSA's Direct Track, Jet U, or ALLATPs CRJ course. Of course, I would get no help on this site regarding those four courses. All I would have gotten is an earful from people who are anti-bridge programs.

And that's cool, but realize that I was in a position where I needed help in choosing from among the four places. I wasn't gonna get any help regarding that. All I ever got was 'low timers dont belong in cockpits' and 'go CFI.'

So the advice here didn't help me, once I had already decided to do one of the four programs.


You say "others learn from your mistake." On the contrary, looking back, I don't want to say it's a mistake. I choose it knowing what I was doing. I can't comment much until I finish. Once I'm done, and if I'm hired, then it will not have been a mistake. The thing that disappointed me most at that said school, was the attitude of the pilots coming in. The other programs, CAE, PACE, FSA's Direct Track, ALL require potential pilots to complete an evaluation of some type (ground written tests, flight tests, etc). The school I went to requires nothing of that sort. So, you do end up with a quite a few people with pis$ poor attitudes who think that once they paid their 30k, they should just be handed the job on a platter. And clearly, that cannot happen. You must work hard every day, and earn it. Some people come in not having flown for 5-10+ years. Biggest thing is attitude. With the right attiude, people can be successful. I just saw lots of bad attitudes. That's what disappointed me most.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Thanks, but now I have the answers.




Well, the difference is that people were against the idealogy of a CRJ course. Everyone here was all for CFIing or traffic bannering, etc. Once I was set on doing a transition type course, I got no help from this site. Why? Because everyone was against the *idealogy* of low timers being in airliner cockpits. So, I could only take the advice here with a grain of salt. The thing I needed help was deciding between CAE's CRJ program, FSA's Direct Track, Jet U, or ALLATPs CRJ course. Of course, I would get no help on this site regarding those four courses. All I would have gotten is an earful from people who are anti-bridge programs.

And that's cool, but realize that I was in a position where I needed help in choosing from among the four places. I wasn't gonna get any help regarding that. All I ever got was 'low timers dont belong in cockpits' and 'go CFI.'

So the advice here didn't help me, once I had already decided to do one of the four programs.


You say "others learn from your mistake." On the contrary, looking back, I don't want to say it's a mistake. I choose it knowing what I was doing. I can't comment much until I finish. Once I'm done, and if I'm hired, then it will not have been a mistake. The thing that disappointed me most at that said school, was the attitude of the pilots coming in. The other programs, CAE, PACE, FSA's Direct Track, ALL require potential pilots to complete an evaluation of some type (ground written tests, flight tests, etc). The school I went to requires nothing of that sort. So, you do end up with a quite a few people with pis$ poor attitudes who think that once they paid their 30k, they should just be handed the job on a platter. And clearly, that cannot happen. You must work hard every day, and earn it. Some people come in not having flown for 5-10+ years. Biggest thing is attitude. With the right attiude, people can be successful. I just saw lots of bad attitudes. That's what disappointed me most.
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Well, hopefully it works out for ya! but I guarentee if you go somewhere and tried to get hired with what you'll have in your hand, and someone who has the same amount of hours as you do, but no Jet U cert. will be in the same situtation as you are....

I don't personally believe in bridge programs, and that site has nothin to do with it. but that is me... I actually rather pay gulfstream the money so at least i'm getting some hands on experience lol.

everyone has diff plans, mine is to CFI for a bit after, or the money i'd spend on CFI training, maybe go rent a seminole 2 ways, and go fly across the country, and make loadsa multi time and use that as a leverage when i'm getting hired...
 
taseal said:
Well, hopefully it works out for ya! but I guarentee if you go somewhere and tried to get hired with what you'll have in your hand, and someone who has the same amount of hours as you do, but no Jet U cert. will be in the same situtation as you are....

I don't personally believe in bridge programs, and that site has nothin to do with it. but that is me... I actually rather pay gulfstream the money so at least i'm getting some hands on experience lol.

everyone has diff plans, mine is to CFI for a bit after, or the money i'd spend on CFI training, maybe go rent a seminole 2 ways, and go fly across the country, and make loadsa multi time and use that as a leverage when i'm getting hired...
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True story:

Quite a few of my friends, in the range of 500 hrs to 900 hours have applied to Pinnacle, and ALL of them got an email from Pinnacle that basically told them to go to Jet U.

Maybe kellwolf can chime in, but this isn't the first time I've heard of Pinnacle sending out this email.

If I would have applied to Pinnacle off-the-street, I would have gotten this same email. So another factor of my decision was I might as well do it, if that's what Pinnacle wants.
 
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