1st Class Medical required for FO's

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Bama

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Beginning August 2nd...

So, what happens to all the current FO's that can't hold captain because they are restricted to a 2nd class medical...?

Doesn't seem right.
 
Bama said:
Beginning August 2nd...

So, what happens to all the current FO's that can't hold captain because they are restricted to a 2nd class medical...?

Doesn't seem right.
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It doesn't seem right that someone who can't hold a 1st class is allowed to fly 121. A 1st class isn't hard to hold, there are plenty of ppl out there that make me wonder how they do it.
 
Can you eloborate? I guess what specifically is the difference in 1st and 2nd. Makes you wonder how they do it as in...they are overweight? Just trying to educate myself if I make the big jump into aviation this year.
 
am I being an idiot...since when wer 121 FO's required only to have at least 2nd class medical? Thought it was only a 1st class?
 
Bama said:
Beginning August 2nd...

So, what happens to all the current FO's that can't hold captain because they are restricted to a 2nd class medical...?

Doesn't seem right.
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Start working on that "Medical Flight Waiver" like yesterday.

Curious what in the world HR was doing hiring pilots who weren't qualified to eventually upgrade to captain? Nothing personal, remember, I don't know you! :)
 
Derg said:
Start working on that "Medical Flight Waiver" like yesterday.

Curious what in the world HR was doing hiring pilots who weren't qualified to eventually upgrade to captain? Nothing personal, remember, I don't know you! :)
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I'm not referring to myself, only in general. Really what sprung to mind was one of our FO's that can't hold a first class medical because he was involved in a crash years back that was the result of shoddy maintenance and not pilot error.

Do these guys lose their jobs and was this considered beforehand? Doubt it.
 
Bama said:
I'm not referring to myself, only in general. Really what sprung to mind was one of our FO's that can't hold a first class medical because he was involved in a crash years back that was the result of shoddy maintenance and not pilot error.

Do these guys lose their jobs and was this considered beforehand? Doubt it.
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I'd think if it ever got that far you could request an FAA waiver to fly in that position without one since you're quite obviously capable of performing the duties. And you could probably sue if they didn't give you one and likely win...
 
I've never had a Class 2 medical, it's not clear what the difference is between 2 & 1. At least now they lengthened the validity from 6 months it is less of a hassle.

Glad I did the Class 1 SODA test vs that for for Class 2. It is easy to step up, just advise CAMI you want to be considered for higher, but agreed, start this process now, it takes a couple of months...

Alex.
 
crazyjaydawg said:
It doesn't seem right that someone who can't hold a 1st class is allowed to fly 121. A 1st class isn't hard to hold, there are plenty of ppl out there that make me wonder how they do it.
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You act like these people all have a choice.

I don't think walking is hard to do, but I know everybody can't do it.
 
Man ... good thing this was announced while there's still time to sign up for ALPA loss of license insurance!
 
Great. So I'll actually have to go every 6 months in a few years without getting the monetary benefits of needing the first class.

That's the only major difference between the two at the 121 level. After X age, you have to go every 6 months to get a first class wheras it's a year for second class. I was perfectly content with just going through the hoops once a year.
 
Up until now Alaska Airlines only required a 2nd Class medical for FOs. Once a year is all I need, thankyouverymuch!

Now I've got to go every six months? EKG once a year? Grr.... I'm not worried about passing, it's just doubled my non-reimbursed expense.
 
Cheechako said:
Up until now Alaska Airlines only required a 2nd Class medical for FOs. Once a year is all I need, thankyouverymuch!

Now I've got to go every six months? EKG once a year? Grr.... I'm not worried about passing, it's just doubled my non-reimbursed expense.
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Don't worry. Medicals are a 100% reimbursed expense on the Deltaborg Cubeship. Just wait for the assimilation. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
 
Bama said:
Then please explain the point of offering a second-class medical..
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It's for commercial flying privileges. By commercial, I mean for compensation or hire, not a 121 or 135 type operator... Hence why all airline pilots need 1st class medicals regardless of being an FO or Captain...
 
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