1959 Piper Apache PA23-160 POH

Aviator_Bakeek

Aviator_Bakeek

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I am looking for an online owners manual for a 1959 Apache. If anyone has a link or a copy on their computer please let me know. Something shipped does me no good since I just picked up a gig and have a flight this weekend.

Thanks!
 
I have a POH (more like a sales brochure) but it is not in electronic format. There is a decent checklist floating around on the web. Just google it. There are some speeds that are wrong so just proof read it. The POH is pretty vague and missing a lot of information that just wasn't important in that era. Only a handful of performance charts, not really any checklists or procedure listings, and for the generic W&B it says to "see W&B data in the airplane". That is it, no charts, no example problems, nothing. Our aircraft POH has a few cobbled together W&B data sheets through its years and we have managed to reconstruct what the W&B is and how to compute loading data correctly.

My flt school just leased one this past fall. Our is a '57 -150 model.

I do have a gouge sheet I can email to you that I made up on the plane.
 
jdlilfan said:
I have a POH (more like a sales brochure) but it is not in electronic format. There is a decent checklist floating around on the web. Just google it. There are some speeds that are wrong so just proof read it. The POH is pretty vague and missing a lot of information that just wasn't important in that era. Only a handful of performance charts, not really any checklists or procedure listings, and for the generic W&B it says to "see W&B data in the airplane". That is it, no charts, no example problems, nothing. Our aircraft POH has a few cobbled together W&B data sheets through its years and we have managed to reconstruct what the W&B is and how to compute loading data correctly.
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I second all of this. The Apache POH does not have very much information in it. The performance figures that are in it are not accurate at all. It is listed a required item in the TCD so make sure you have an aircraft specific flight manual. It's only a few pages of systems and w&b information IIRC..
 
Let's see, Apache.
Cruise speed: Slow.
Climb speed: Slower.
Single engine climb rate: Fuggeddabouddit.
Vyse: Just bail out now.
 
I have been surprised by our single engine climb rate on ours and it is the 150. This winter I have saw 200fpm+ on blue line with one feathered. Even before it got cold 100-200 fpm was possible. The climb speed is slow however the Rate of Climb is pretty decent with two people and only mains full. On cold days we get 1800 FPM but I usually run over-square so I'm probably killing kittens or something...Cruise speed is painfully slow though. Great for time building and transitioning from a 172 but it would be tough to transition from a pa-23 to a C310. That is quite a steep speed/learning curve to triumph. Takeoff and landing performance has been great. Off the ground in 1200ft, land it and get it stopped in 800ft without a lot of braking.
 
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