121 crosswind landing technique

I’ve flown with guys that would sideslip at 100 feet and I would say “wtf?”

Some jets have prescribed limits for landing in a crab to avoid wing mounted engines from playing tag with pavement.

In the round out and flare I kick out the rudder and do what’s necessary to land pointed down centerline. (320 does most of the work)
 
pete2800 said:
737 depends on which model you're talking about.
900:...Whatever cross wind technique you want is fine, but you'll have to be quick because you're going fast enough to pass heavies that are for the parallel.
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Even for the ones with the curb feelers?

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Skåning said:
Even for the ones with the curb feelers?

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Yeah, striking the tail is a bigger concern than striking the wing. And one attribute of coming down final at a higher approach speed than most things is that the crab angles don't get too big, so not a lot of wing-low necessary even if it's windy.
 
Beefy McGee said:
Just got out of a sim training event. We were discussing hard landings and such, which brought up the crosswind landing subject.

Prior to today, any time I heard crosswind landings discussed, putting the upwind main down first was acceptable if it was a strong enough crosswind. No side load, rolling straight down the runway.

Instructor was of the opinion that in the 121 world, you should "be good enough" that you never make a landing on only one main gear at any time. Both mains should touch at the same time, every time. But to me that might mean a crabbed touchdown on the centerline or a straight touchdown but with sideways drift.

Thoughts?
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I don't think your instructor understands how crosswinds and airplanes work.


Awacs963 said:
Exactly. The airbus flight control Law will not allow a “wing down” technique.
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Huh???
 
pete2800 said:
737 depends on which model you're talking about.

700: Do whatever you want. Pull the power off, flare it like you'll never strike the tail, kick it straight at the end.

900: For the love of God don't pull the power back until you've stopped the sink rate. Also don't use flaps 40, they'll turn your flare into a pitch change with no associated slowing of descent rate. Whatever cross wind technique you want is fine, but you'll have to be quick because you're going fast enough to pass heavies that are for the parallel.
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Lol wut
 
Probably well over 90% of my landings are in a slight bank on one main gear (ala Bob Hoover). Been doing it since my private pilot days, through light twins, turboprops and an assortment of large/heavy jets.

It does take a little bit of finesse but tends to result in much smoother landings (for me at least). X-wind landings find me crabbing down final and then smoothly kicking it out in the flare and a little wing down on the upwind side. Just don’t chop the power until arresting the sink....

30 yrs of big jet flying and never a problem....
 
In the Q crosswind landings are just like my days in the caravan. Nice high wing and instantaneous lift courtesy of those props. Most guys crab until over the numbers then transition to the slip and dip a wing, seems to work out. Until touchdown that is, since this damn plane is a shopping cart with wings and gets way too squirrelly on the roll out. Heck every landing on this plane a difference in 1 percent torque or a half degree pitch can give you a greaser or here comes the boom

The ERJ was a breeze in a crosswind, wait until 20 or 10 on the radalt call, kick the rudder and correct that roll with a touch of aileron and set er down. Crosswind 20 or less around 20 worked, in ORD with a gusty 25 or 30 I’d wait until 10. Made few CA’s flinch ;)
 
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