120,000 New Airline Pilots Needed in US Through 2017

Kit Darby you old sneak!

They didn't say anything about global warming killin of the last of the dodo's in that same article did they? Oh yah...where is Jimmy Hoffa?

Is this article based on the new VLJ's which many people think will fail horribly? I think instead of a massive pilot shortage you'll see a massive increase in automation.
 
big airlines are in bankruptcy or close to it and thousands of airline pilots have been furloughed, but the job market for pilots hasn't looked this good in five years. Kit Darby, who runs Air, Inc., a publishing company that tracks pilot employment, says more than 10,000 jobs will open up this year. He said experienced pilots looking for work can probably find it but a few of them might need an attitude adjustment. "Whatever it is, you just have to get over it," said Darby. "Then you've got to get yourself up and get back to the marketplace. There are a lot of quality jobs out there." Darby said there are a lot of unemployed pilots who have a hard time taking a pay cut, a smaller airplane or a demotion but he urges them to look at the larger picture. Just about any steady flying job is going to pay more and be more satisfying (to a pilot) than just about any other type of career. He said he's had numerous clients that have left the industry in disgust, become successful at something else and then come back begging for a flying job. "It's a lifestyle. It's not just a job," he said.



I'll paraphrase.
1. Lots of jobs
2. they don't pay well or treat you well but you need to get over it.


edit - forgot the link to the full article.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/546-full.html#191309
 
tonyw said:
Ain't no such thing. Job security doesn't exist anymore.
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I know job security is never 100% but if there is a lot of hiring going on and you are at least one promotion above entry level then it is very unlikely you will get fired.
 
Killtron2000 said:
I know job security is never 100% but if there is a lot of hiring going on and you are at least one promotion above entry level then it is very unlikely you will get fired.
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You obviously have zero experience with corporate America, or you wouldn't make such an inaccurate statement.
 
B*LLSH*T!! There will NOT be a shortage of pilots. They have been saying that there is going to be an excess of jobs for YEARS! Not happening. Kit Darby and the big flight schools are loving it though. Pilot wannabes make for easy marketing!
 
gurisudenko said:
The worst thing ever for the industry!

Once you have your commerical license, you're a professional and should be compensated at such. It's hard to tell someone with shiny jet syndrome to stay away because they will not be respected as they should be given the time, money, blood, sweat, and tears they have put into their training.

Another can of worms!
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Aviation is no longer a profession, it is a trade.
 
gurisudenko said:
I would hope that FAA's projected fleet growth would imply future airline growth, which would imply improved financial standings for airlines, which would in turn mean a reduction in cost cutting efforts, which would put its pilots back in salary brackets commensurate with their education and training.

...*I would hope*

Call me a dreamer, but I don't think all of this bad stuff is going to last forever.
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Salaries have been in decline for almost 30 years, ever since deregulation. Occasionally you see a spike in the trend, when some pilot group signs an "industry leading" contract during the middle of a growth period. But as soon as the next downturn comes, that pilot group gives it all away again.

Oh sure, if you compare W2's from 30 years ago and today, today's will show more dollars on it, but the buying power is considerably less than it was 30 years ago
 
No one flies for a living because of the incredible pay. We fly because we love it. For that reason, we'll always be taken advantage of.

The solution? Strong unions.
 
CapnJim said:
No one flies for a living because of the incredible pay. We fly because we love it. For that reason, we'll always be taken advantage of.

The solution? Strong unions.
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I agree with you CapnJim. However, are unions really the answer? They haven't been too impressive as of late. What good is a contract if a judge just tosses it aside. I was in teamsters for several years and paid a fortune in dues and they didn't do a darn thing for me.

I am now working for a non-union company and I am treated exponentionally well. I have better pay, bettter QOL, and better work rules than I ever did working for union shop.
 
The solution then: Strong unions + union reform. We need strong union leaders that really are out to help the members, not themselves.
 
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