1 killed as plane crashes in suburb east of LA

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SAN GABRIEL, Calif. – One person was killed when a small plane crashed in the heavily populated suburb of San Gabriel northeast of Los Angeles.
Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor says the single-engine Beechcraft Bonanza crashed and caught fire shortly after 4 p.m. Saturday, killing the only person on board.
The plane departed from Brackett Field in La Verne about 25 miles east of the crash site and was on a short flight to Van Nuys.
There are no reports of injuries to anyone on the ground and no immediate word of what caused the crash.
Investigators from the FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board are headed to the scene
 
Ok. So how come it seems that everytime I have F5'd the forum in the past few weeks, the latest post on the general sub-forum is about some fatality?

RIP, and be careful out there people.
 
Lots of folks get over their head in them, but they are safe if flown correctly. As with the Cirrus, many folks buy it as an expensive toy without having the proper skills/training to operate it. I have no idea if this was the case here, but a lot of Bonanza accidents can be attributed to pilot inexperience.
 
ChristheCFII said:
Lots of folks get over their head in them, but they are safe if flown correctly. As with the Cirrus, many folks buy it as an expensive toy without having the proper skills/training to operate it. I have no idea if this was the case here, but a lot of Bonanza accidents can be attributed to pilot inexperience.
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Hence the "Doctor Killer" nickname
 
My flight school has used Bonanza's for 18 years now and not even one fatality. The Bonanza is not the problem. The problem is the experience level of the people who fly them and the decisions they make.
 
The Fez said:
Hence the "Doctor Killer" nickname
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There is not a single thing wrong with the Bonanza. It's a solid airplane that delivers the performance and reliability. With proper training and situational awareness, it is just as safe as any other airplane out there. Maybe the emphasis should be on the word "Doctor" in that quote.
 
Cirrus seem to be taking over the Doctor Lawyer killer spot. Its all about whats hot and trendy among rich morons who cant handle the aircraft.
 
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Cirrus seem to be taking over the Doctor Lawyer killer spot. Its all about whats hot and trendy among rich morons who cant handle the aircraft.
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Reminds me of a guy that came into my FBO one day who just HAD to start out on an SR-20 rather than a 172.
 
As a future doctor I have to say I'd rather go with the moron killer phrase :D

Was this the guy on youtube with the Bonanza scraping the mountain in IFR conditions? He was out of Van Nuys as I recall.
 
Not that your points are necessarily invalid, but I did want to take a moment and clarify that Dave was not one of the people you've described. He was a long-time friend of my family and has been flying for as long as I can remember.

It could have been the plane that caused the problem. And you're right, it even could have been a mistake he made that caused the accident; but he certainly was not unknowledgeable, or a "moron" when it came to flying. As some authorities have stated, he had to have exercised extreme skill as his plane was going down, as he managed to divert his plane from the many neighboring houses.
 
jetcareeruser said:
Not that your points are necessarily invalid, but I did want to take a moment and clarify that Dave was not one of the people you've described. He was a long-time friend of my family and has been flying for as long as I can remember.

It could have been the plane that caused the problem. And you're right, it even could have been a mistake he made that caused the accident; but he certainly was not unknowledgeable, or a "moron" when it came to flying. As some authorities have stated, he had to have exercised extreme skill as his plane was going down, as he managed to divert his plane from the many neighboring houses.
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My condolences to you and your family in your loss. I'm sure no one here was calling your friend a moron, or unknowledgable. There does seem to be a trend in accidents involving aircraft like the bonanza, cirrus. There are those who buy airplanes their pocketbooks can afford, but they may not have the decision making capability needed to fly those planes.

Sometimes it is the plane. Unfortunately they do break sometimes. It does sound like this guy kept his plane under control enough to not hit a house or person on the ground.
 
jetcareeruser said:
Not that your points are necessarily invalid, but I did want to take a moment and clarify that Dave was not one of the people you've described. He was a long-time friend of my family and has been flying for as long as I can remember.

It could have been the plane that caused the problem. And you're right, it even could have been a mistake he made that caused the accident; but he certainly was not unknowledgeable, or a "moron" when it came to flying. As some authorities have stated, he had to have exercised extreme skill as his plane was going down, as he managed to divert his plane from the many neighboring houses.
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Sorry for your loss of a friend.

I think the above comments were not aimed at Dave, but in Bonanza incidents in general. Not as much anymore (because of planes like the Cirrus) but Bonanzas used to have a negative energy because of the "doctors" that flew them would crash often. The discussion just got started in this thread.

Again, our sympathies for you and Dave's family and other friends, we all have been through this with one of our own not long ago.
 
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