#1 Flamed out.....
- Thread starter Alchemy
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B767Driver
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Alchemy said:
Nice work.
But what do you mean the ensuing flight to Mexico? No way the company should have had you doing any more flying that day. Tons of cases where guys have had time to reflect and started getting Post Traumatic Stress syndrome...wondering if they did everything right.
Once again...nice job.
fender_jag
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Excellent job!
Bigey
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B767Driver said:
Oh comeon bud, get with the program will ya? It's not that big of a deal, and besides, they're not allowed to make it a big deal - it's their fault. I tell ya, if only pilots knew how to get the engine to start working again...then they wouldnt of had to cost the airline thousands of dollars for this little "mishap."
On a side not, great job dude! When will these guys get a bump in pay?!
Mr_Creepy said:We've seen that a few times haven't we Doug
That doesn't just happen at the airlines. We've taken the Citation in to the Cessna Citation Service Center in Wichita with squawks. The mechanics work on it for five minutes, and if they can't duplicate it's returned to service. Then we are charge for 3 hours of labor and an airplane that still has gremlins
Alchemy
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Actually, the base chief pilot did meet us at the airplane after we landed, shook our hands and asked us how we felt about flying the next turn. The captain said "I think we're fine", so we went ahead and did it. At least the air return ended up giving us close to an extra hour in pay. I'm sure we could've opted out the rest of the day if we felt the need to, but as far as emergencies go, that one was pretty cut and dry. Really, if you're going to pop an engine, not much better place to do it. We were already clean for climbout and right at vectoring altitude for the approach.
The only think I'd probably impart would be to not fly the next leg.
Because if you do as much as blow a tire or damage the next aircraft, the NTSB is going to be all over the fact that you had a prior event that day and your judgement was affected.
I had an event at Skyway where we were out doing a run-up on a 1900 and had to do an emergency egress because the cabin smoked up (oil line shook loose and started pumping oil into the air conditioner or something like that). So we do an emergency shutdown, jump out of the aircraft and cough a few bronchioles out.
The mechanics brought another aircraft from the hangar, the captain insisted that we not fly the next leg, get looked at by a doctor (which we did) and end our duty day.
I slept 18 hours that day.
Because if you do as much as blow a tire or damage the next aircraft, the NTSB is going to be all over the fact that you had a prior event that day and your judgement was affected.
I had an event at Skyway where we were out doing a run-up on a 1900 and had to do an emergency egress because the cabin smoked up (oil line shook loose and started pumping oil into the air conditioner or something like that). So we do an emergency shutdown, jump out of the aircraft and cough a few bronchioles out.
The mechanics brought another aircraft from the hangar, the captain insisted that we not fly the next leg, get looked at by a doctor (which we did) and end our duty day.
I slept 18 hours that day.
Alchemy
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That's good advice, and to tell you the truth I did feel kind of bothered that we were still getting sent to Mexico. On the other hand, at the time I felt like I would've been taking advantage of the situation if I used it to get out of work, especially when the captain and flight attendant were ready to go. The FAA perspective is definitely something to think about if or when I run into a similair situation in the future. Since this was the first time something like this had happened to me, I wasn't really sure if it was normal to continue working or to be released. It's good to know that in the future I should go ahead and throw in the towel for the day.
Don't be afraid to pull the plug after an event.
I'm suprised that the company even suggested you fly the next leg.
I had a high (!!!!!) speed RTO in SLC a few years ago on the last day of the rotation on the first leg, which resulted in a blown tire and a suspected FOD'd engine and off the bat, they cancelled the rotation and sent us home after we went thru the standards of calling ALPA safety before talking to anyone and then following the standard incident process.
I'm suprised that the company even suggested you fly the next leg.
I had a high (!!!!!) speed RTO in SLC a few years ago on the last day of the rotation on the first leg, which resulted in a blown tire and a suspected FOD'd engine and off the bat, they cancelled the rotation and sent us home after we went thru the standards of calling ALPA safety before talking to anyone and then following the standard incident process.