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You actually don’t know what you’re talking about. Again. And no I won’t tell you.
Just a reminder: ACARS isn't private
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I’m completely ignorant other than knowing one “successful” FFDO story…the guy I know stopped concealed carrying in public because he realized that he needed a lot more training to be useful in an active shooter scenario after going through FFDO training. That reinforces my general belief that moar guns are not the solution to gun violence here, similarly to the rest of the developed world.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Again, the FFDOs bros defend the program. Their standard go-to answer to anyone outside the program is “you don’t know what you’re talking about.”
I fly with you’s. I know enough.
I’ll add more 2 cents you didn’t ask for…
1. It is beyond insane we armed Fedex/UPS pilots. No terrorist has ever gotten access inflight to commandeer a FDX/UPS jet. The only example was a FedEx green-on-green attack, an employee about to be fired who decided to turn on his crew and takeover the airplane. An inside threat, not external.
2. RJ pilots strapping. That’s cute.
Even the PSA accident flight had an armed pilot.
Alright, here it is. Any terrorist worth his salt, who has gone through the training, is committed to a takeover to use an airplane as a WMD, is not going to use a damn RJ. If they’re going all the way, it’s gonna be a bigger airplane. Even on 9/11 Mohammad Atta flew PWM-BOS on a Colgan B1900 with no flight deck door, and never charged or attempted a takeover. No one is taking over a friggin RJ, get over yourself.
I fly with you’s. I know enough.
I’ll add more 2 cents you didn’t ask for…
1. It is beyond insane we armed Fedex/UPS pilots. No terrorist has ever gotten access inflight to commandeer a FDX/UPS jet. The only example was a FedEx green-on-green attack, an employee about to be fired who decided to turn on his crew and takeover the airplane. An inside threat, not external.
2. RJ pilots strapping. That’s cute.
Even the PSA accident flight had an armed pilot.
Alright, here it is. Any terrorist worth his salt, who has gone through the training, is committed to a takeover to use an airplane as a WMD, is not going to use a damn RJ. If they’re going all the way, it’s gonna be a bigger airplane. Even on 9/11 Mohammad Atta flew PWM-BOS on a Colgan B1900 with no flight deck door, and never charged or attempted a takeover. No one is taking over a friggin RJ, get over yourself.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Your initial is awesome.
Your recurrent is beyond pathetic. You’re shooting the same friggin paper at the same damn range as I am. That is not specialized training.
Your recurrent is beyond pathetic. You’re shooting the same friggin paper at the same damn range as I am. That is not specialized training.
ERfly
Well-Known Member
When has that EVER stopped him.
See just above about him spouting off again on things he knows nothing about (Flight 705 and Calloway).
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I mentioned that incident specifically in my post above. It’s not classified info, it’s publicly available info.
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Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
BEEF SUPREME
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He doesn't even understand how sidearms or holsters function and he's making sweeping statements about how they are placed on one's person.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I know how they work sugga. Doesn’t change the fact I had a muzzle pointed, if momentarily as part of an arc/sweep, at my lower left leg.
Your comment about a gun being in a holster and “cannot go off” is irrelevant (and counter to the most basic gun safety rule). Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
BEEF SUPREME
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You do realize that when one is carrying concealed that the muzzle is pointed at one's own body correct? This is a safe practice due to the weapon being in the holster.
This seems like something that is entirely in your own head. You're just making this up.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
How are you carrying concealed? My holster is a kydex OWB and my muzzle is parallel to my leg with a slight cant forward. It would miss my leg if it somehow went off.
I don’t dick carry (appendix). Maybe that’s what you do.
BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
Wow man making up imaginary stories about FFDOs. That's a low point. Even for someone as pathetic as you.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
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I'm actually good with the program being abolished in the next Congressional visit to the Budget Thunderdome.
But yeah. I own one or more guns, even. I've never had a situation where I thought I would want one at work, and it just looks like another heavy thing to carry around (or forget that you've got aboard when going to Canada).
Wardogg
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What is your version of the answer?
BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
No no.
@Cherokee_Cruiser had an imaginary moment where an FFDO pointed a gun at him. He didn't do the right thing and report it. He came here to JC to complain and say how worthless the program is.
I’m meh about the FFDO program. It’s got its standard good participants and dimwit participants, like any program does. But to address the above statement, in defense of the FFDO program, the guy you know is correct in his self-assessment, but that’s not necessarily a hit on the FFDO training, as the FFDO mission, area where the FFDO would be armed, and where an FFDO would employ their firearm, isn’t an active shooter arena. It’s only for a cockpit breach. A confined space, close quarter. That’s it. Good on the guy you know for recognizing that a broader breadth and depth of training is needed for active shooter defense, though he can still carry for himself and defend immediate life threats to himself. Doesn’t mean he has to take part in running gun battles. But it’s people like him who are thinking and using their heads reasonably, who are the good responsible carriers of a firearm.
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