Jeremy Justice

Raydon

Raydon

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Hey peoples.

for those of you who have taken the at-sat I'm wondering if you could throw some ideas up for modifying jeremy's version to reflect the at-sat version.
I remember hearing something about the timing of movements is about once every 7 seconds instead of the rapid fire rate the original download version has.. are there any other noticeable differences you can point out?

I've got access to flash editors and was thinking it'd be a fun project to post up for all of us here @ JC

I could probably even turn the airplanes into flying Bananas!
 
The Jeremy Justice version really was nearly identical to the actual test. I guess the only differences would be:

- Any time a new aircraft appears, you have to click on it to accept the handoff
- You have to click on the aircraft each time you want to give it an instruction, even if you're giving two instructions to the same aircraft
- The real test updates every 7 seconds, however, I liked learning on the Jeremy Justice and "green book" software because it made the actual test that much easier... I don't think it would help anyone to change that
- It actually enforces the separation rules (5 miles horizontally or 1 level vertically)
 
ATC Hopeful said:
I am not 100% sure, but i think the airport runways were wider on the test than on Jeremy Justice.
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I'll confirm this. They were absolutely wider in the real test version. The overall workable area was larger too. It took up 100% of the PC monitor vertically, and about 3/4 of the monitor horizontally (the last 1/4 was for the sidebar with the commands and runway directions on it). Much more room for the planes to move around in.

Also the direction of landing didn't change until the scenario changed. So the runways didn't change directions when you already had planes lined up to land on them.
 
FM_Weasel said:
I'll confirm this. They were absolutely wider in the real test version. The overall workable area was larger too. It took up 100% of the PC monitor vertically, and about 3/4 of the monitor horizontally (the last 1/4 was for the sidebar with the commands and runway directions on it). Much more room for the planes to move around in.

Also the direction of landing didn't change until the scenario changed. So the runways didn't change directions when you already had planes lined up to land on them.
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The runway directions did change on my test. This alone caused 3 crashes for me as I did not realize it until it was too late.
 
K-Dog said:
The runway directions did change on my test. This alone caused 3 crashes for me as I did not realize it until it was too late.
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Weird, there must be a variance between the tests then. I just want to confirm that I am 100% positive that mine didn't switch directions except after the scenario ended and a new one began (as a result, I never had an issue landing a plane in the wrong direction). Looks like they may have modified the tests between groups.

Good info.
 
hey has anyone deepsourced the .swf from the website like I did? I've noticed that the 'f' airport crashes every plane landing going medium OR slow, in either direction until the wind direction changes every time i load it up now.. poop.
 
I didn't crash anything on the test, but I did have a few errors. The main causes:

1. New plane "hand offs" appearing in areas of the screen that were dense with planes at the same altitude. Like a place on 1 appearing near an airport entrance. That was my #1 problem, and it caused separation errors.

2. I routed planes on whatever course got the plane there in the least distance (lots of diagonals) and all at speed fast no matter what throughout the test (I got efficiency scores in the 90s and 80s). When landing planes, my actions were (a) first alter their course into the landing direction, then (b) change them from fast to slow both within the last available 7 second pause. Every once and a while I wouldn't get both clicks in and the plane would land too fast in the right direction. This gave me some sort of safety/procedural error on the statistics page when the scenario was done. I think if I'd done it the other way around, though, it would have caused crashes. I don't think the errors I had were worth much or they didn't factor into the efficiency scores.

And also remember...the PDF file out there about the test says that crashes are scored the same as separation errors.
 
I dunno, I moved the planes around and landed them, no crashes. No airport direction changes in the middle of a scenario. I had 90+ on efficiency on all stages. Its pretty straightfoward.
 
On the real AT-SAT the planes instantly turned the direction you directed them to whereas on the CD you had to deal with the turning radius.
 
mah584jr said:
On the real AT-SAT the planes instantly turned the direction you directed them to whereas on the CD you had to deal with the turning radius.
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Ugh. Don't bother with the CD, the software is a trainwreck, even with the update.

In any case, this one is the version we're talking about.

I'm a little surprised that he doesn't have a link to PayPal or something on his site. I know I'd be willing to shoot $5 his way for the time I spent preparing there. It was a huge help.
 
For some reason, the scan game didn't work for me in Firefox. I had to use Internet Explorer.
 
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