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meritflyer said:
Not the best profession at the present time..
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Depends, the agent whom I bought my house from did 10 closings a month on average over the past 6 months. Commissions on my home were $10k, her share was around $2,500. And my house was below the average home value in the area.

That's a lot of coin.

BUT, to get started it takes a lot of money too. You've gotta have a new(ish) car, spend loads of money on gas, network in, devote 24/7 to it, etc. She's definitely the rarity.
 
Degrees don't mean a thing outside aviation. Experience on the other hand is a different story - at least in my profession.

I recently interviewed a guy with his MBA fresh out of school and a radio ad salesman with 8 years experience. Guess who got the job?

FWIW, sales is where money is. Drugs or devices for those of you with some sales background will bring six figures working 4 days a week.
 
You also have to have the "look" and attitude to do well in sales. Attractive, clean cut, fit, great people skills, overly confident, etc., if I had all those attributes I wouldn't be an airline pilot, that's for sure. Stupid male pattern baldness at an early age...
 
wheelsup said:
You also have to have the "look" and attitude to do well in sales. Attractive, clean cut, fit, great people skills, overly confident, etc., if I had all those attributes I wouldn't be an airline pilot, that's for sure. Stupid male pattern baldness at an early age...
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Well, I think you may be surprised. We have some pretty damn ugly, successful men and women.
 
meritflyer said:
Degrees don't mean a thing outside aviation. Experience on the other hand is a different story - at least in my profession.

I recently interviewed a guy with his MBA fresh out of school and a radio ad salesman with 8 years experience. Guess who got the job?

FWIW, sales is where money is. Drugs or devices for those of you with some sales background will bring six figures working 4 days a week.
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I'm sure in most cases it means the difference between a supervisor and a janitor. Ask the highschool dropout serving you your biggie fries about that.
 
TheOneMarine said:
I'm sure in most cases it means the difference between a supervisor and a janitor. Ask the highschool dropout serving you your biggie fries about that.
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If you're the type who gets a degree and does that job, then I would agree. But I would wager that the most successful people in this world don't have a degree, and if they do, it's not in anything they are currently doing.
 
wheelsup said:
If you're the type who gets a degree and does that job, then I would agree. But I would wager that the most successful people in this world don't have a degree, and if they do, it's not in anything they are currently doing.
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I'll go with wheels on this one..
 
wheelsup said:
If you're the type who gets a degree and does that job, then I would agree. But I would wager that the most successful people in this world don't have a degree, and if they do, it's not in anything they are currently doing.
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I sure as heck won't argue this either, but how many of these people are there? I DO agree with you and Merit that now adays with all the online campuses, the college degree is being watered down nearly to the level of a high school degree. And sales (if you're good at it and a people person) is a whole other animal :p
 
wheelsup said:
If you're the type who gets a degree and does that job, then I would agree. But I would wager that the most successful people in this world don't have a degree, and if they do, it's not in anything they are currently doing.
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Statistically speaking, you don't have a prayer at becoming one of them :)

Which is why a college degree is a good backup plan to "creating the next fortune 500 company".
 
Clocks said:
Statistically speaking, you don't have a prayer at becoming one of them :)

Which is why a college degree is a good backup plan to "creating the next fortune 500 company".
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LOL good point :). That's pretty much why I became a pilot, or at least embarked on it in the 90's.
 
Clocks said:
Statistically speaking, you don't have a prayer at becoming one of them :)

Which is why a college degree is a good backup plan to "creating the next fortune 500 company".
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Out of our 120 person domestic US sales force, only <50% of the group hold a BS/BA. All of them make $150-400K.

Not sure if that curbs your "statistic" or not.
 
meritflyer said:
Out of our 120 person domestic US sales force, only <50% of the group hold a BS/BA. All of them make $150-400K.

Not sure if that curbs your "statistic" or not.
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I think his point was that of the US population, the majority don't make anywhere near $150k/yr. Degree or not.
 
meritflyer said:
Out of our 120 person domestic US sales force, only <50% of the group hold a BS/BA. All of them make $150-400K.

Not sure if that curbs your "statistic" or not.
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I work for a financial company that won't hire you unless you have a 4-year degree. I guess it all depends on where you work?
 
Wing_96 said:
I work for a financial company that won't hire you unless you have a 4-year degree. I guess it all depends on where you work?
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I manage a 22 state territory for a Fortune 500 company. We value experience and education greatly. However, if someone thinks a business degree outweighs solid experience, they're severely mistaken - at least where I work.
 
TexasFlyer said:
That's every niche I know. Not sure if healthcare or IT has slowed, but those aren't my expertise or interest areas.
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IT is booming if you live in Hyderabad, India.

It's not that bad, but it certainly isn't what it used to be (IT work that is).
 
meritflyer said:
I manage a 22 state territory for a Fortune 500 company.
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I wish I could say the same (I think). Our company is really big on the 4-year degree, but that may be specific to the group that I work in. I don't think they require it in our client services group.

Does your IT dept. require a 4-year?
 
Wing_96 said:
I wish I could say the same (I think). Our company is really big on the 4-year degree, but that may be specific to the group that I work in. I don't think they require it in our client services group.

Does your IT dept. require a 4-year?
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If you're in IT, I can see it. I am a regional sales manager.

I am not sure if our IT department requires a 4 year.
 
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