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DE727UPS said:
Well Typhoon. Maybe you should change your title to get past the moderation and get this moved to the general section. This is a pretty big deal and I'd hate to see it limited in scope over something silly.
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Thanks for the support DE. I titled the thread the way I did just to get it some attention. Perhaps there is another title that would work, but I doubted that "Cadet Program" in the title was going to draw much interest for the right viewers. I'm open for the title to change and the thread to be moved back to the General section, any suggestions?

I wouldn't doubt that this program is just the first of many in the region. The Government of Dubai is setting up a low cost airline in the next year or two and they will need pilots as well. The UAE locals can easily become multi-millionaires the way that business is run in the UAE so it is very difficult for the airlines to attract and keep the local pilots. EK have many leaving to pursue business interests. The quote from a 15 year local pilot when he left was , " it was costing me too much money to keep work for Emirates ".


TP
 
quote=pouya700;834573]How come when we try to apply it doesn't let us submit the application because in some areas that doesn't apply to the cadet program student when we leave them empty or put NA it doesn't let us complete application does anybody know why?[/quote]

I am having the same problem.

I can complete:

1. Contact information
2. Personal info
3. Language Skills
4. References (1 character and one business)

However the application instruction notes you must put a 'NA' or '0' for the following sections as most 'Cadets' do not have notable time.

1. Employment details
2. Current Licenses
3. Flying school

I can attach my up to date CV just fine.

Because you can't leave fields neither blank nor put 'NA' '0' you cannot click 'confirm'. This in turns makes your application 'incomplete'. And right on that page it says they will not look at incomplete applications (obviously).

So does anyone have any ideas on why, or how to get around this issue?

Thanks everyone!

-MjetR

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I agree as I said in the other post, this is an outstanding opportunity for those that can get it. The fact that you have to work for the company for x number of years really isn't bad. Reminds me of another well known way to get your flight training that no one seems to have an issue with....the U.S. Military. Why is this so different and why wouldn't a company have the right to ask you to stick around after they trained you?

For any others interested, Cathay has opened the cadet program to Hong Kong residents. Previously it was only open to Hong Kong permanent residents. Residency in Hong Kong is not hard to establish so that may be another avenue for the eager guys. I'm also quite sure Cathay would like you to work here for a few years too.

Etihad seems to be a very good company and anyone who applied would be lucky to have a job there. I can only imagine how much easier it would have been to have ZERO flight training debt flying a widebody while my buddies were doing 5 leg days to Lubbock.
 
Does anyone know about the color vision requirments for the ICAO? With the FAA I have passed an alternate color vision test but I didn't know if places like Etihad would accept this.

What about religious freedom over there? Are Christians allowed to be open about their faith and are there churches over there? That's something that would be very important to me if I were ever to move there.
 
Too bad I'm too old for an opportunity like this. I'd certainly do this!

Here are the two big items everyone needs to think about:

1) The bad: You may not feel like you are in debt personally, but you are owned by the company you are indebted too... just think of that. Until your commitment is up, you have no freedom of choice.

2) The good: You will most likely accelerate your career in both experience and financially far faster than any domestic US counterpart doing it a more traditional way (paying for school via loan then instructing and then regional airline over the same 6-8 year period of time).

So, you just have to decide if the good side out weighs the bad side. And to me, there is no wrong answer here. Just comes down to your personal situation.
 
juxtapilot said:
Is the flying any fun over there? Would cadets get any days off, to go back to the US or wherever for a weekend?
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Vacation time as an expat would be between 30 and 42 days per year. Not sure what Etihad's policy is. So yes, you will have time to go back to the USA. Etihad also serves Canada and the USA on regular flights. The time in training will most likely be pretty intense without much time off, but I'm sure there will be local holidays off.

What about religious freedom over there? Are Christians allowed to be open about their faith and are there churches over there? That's something that would be very important to me if I were ever to move there.
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http://www.eccad.org/

http://www.standrewauh.org/


Does anyone know about the color vision requirments for the ICAO? With the FAA I have passed an alternate color vision test but I didn't know if places like Etihad would accept this.
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The GCAA follows European regulations so the answer is most likely yes.



Typhoonpilot
 
Typhoon,

Thanks for the links. That is pretty cool to know that about there being churches over there. That would be a relief to my extended family if I went over there. I would take a lot to convince them that UAE is vastly different from the other Arab countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia. I finish college in a year. I'll be 26. Maybe than I can take the plunge.
 
Typhoonpilot,

Thanks for all the information you have been providing us. We hear a lot about the growth in aviation in the middle east and asia, but we rarely get the details that you provide. Don't let the comments about your use of the words "scheme" or "free" discourage you from posting more information.

thanks again,

Pete
 
I don't know why there's a tendency to think i'm being overly harsh here? I want everyone to get the correct information they need to make the right decisions for themselves. Nothing more than that. I think it would be great to hear about more opportunities like this (if they do exist)....it's to each persons perspective if they want to go this route or not, not mine....I don't think by what i said, i demoted the idea at all..in fact, i already mentioned that it might be a great opportunity for someone who wants it.

TP - if you want to change the title of the thread, i have absolutely no problem with that and/or putting this up in general topics vs in the jobs available category (i just don't want 2 of the same posts in the entirety of the forum because, well, we don't allow anyone else that either). However, i do feel that it is more of a job available and i do think that with the amount of threads in general topics, it would get put on page 2 faster than it would in here. feel free to report the topic and ask for a title change and any one of the mods can take care of it in a second.
 
Thanks for posting this opportunity, Typhoon.

Has anyone been able to successfully submit the application by putting in 0's and NA's in the Employment History section? I don't want to pretend I'm a First Officer just so I can submit an application.
 
astrowhip said:
Thanks for posting this opportunity, Typhoon.

Has anyone been able to successfully submit the application by putting in 0's and NA's in the Employment History section? I don't want to pretend I'm a First Officer just so I can submit an application.
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Im in the same camp. I dont want to pretend im something im not. However if worse came to worse, I was going to simply add those types of comments in the additional info box and explain myself.

Does anyone know when they will be contacting people or intake sched?

Thanks as always,

-MjetR
 
What are my chances in getting into the program? I am a 21 year old with no flight experince. I have wanted to be an airline pilot for as long as I can remember. I attended an aviation university last year and played college football. The program was not strong and I have come to the conclusion that football is not the route for me. I am well rounded individual who has traveled all over the wold. Liveing in dubai would not be a problem and I think I would enjoy it. The commitment issue i am well aware of and would't have a problem with giving back to a company that helped me get my wings. I mean if I take the civilian route there is know way that with in two years I will be flying an Airbus 330, and I am not entirely interested in the military route. If you have any information or recommendations or evan thoughts please let me know Thank You. First Post Also
 
Baidyr said:
What are my chances in getting into the program? I am a 21 year old with no flight experince. I have wanted to be an airline pilot for as long as I can remember. I attended an aviation university last year and played college football. The program was not strong and I have come to the conclusion that football is not the route for me. I am well rounded individual who has traveled all over the wold. Liveing in dubai would not be a problem and I think I would enjoy it. The commitment issue i am well aware of and would't have a problem with giving back to a company that helped me get my wings. I mean if I take the civilian route there is know way that with in two years I will be flying an Airbus 330, and I am not entirely interested in the military route. If you have any information or recommendations or evan thoughts please let me know Thank You. First Post Also
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Welcome to JC!

I'd apply. Never know when luck will be on your side. If I were younger I would apply to every program I could find like this. Then hope luck was on my side. After all, I may apply 10 places, but I only need one to pick me!

So Good Luck to you.
 
Man, this is really an interesting oppurtunity....anyone have any ideas on how I could sell this to the misses? We just bought a house here in Phoenix in Feb. so I'm sure she'd be set against trying to sell it again, especially in the West Valley housing market.

TP, anything on there about previous flight experience? Would it be a plus or could they care less? Also, what equip. could you expect to be on after graduation? Finally, any remote chance of being able to commute (ie, stay here in Phoenix and just suck up the 2.5 days of travel to and from the middle east?
 
Has anyone been able to get any info as to if they have a program for or are accepting people with a fresh CMEL w/ Inst? I emailed them but haven't gotten any response as of yet.
 
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