So You Want To Be A Controller ?

I browse through these boards when time allows and always see the same questions about being an air traffic controller. Below is something written by a fellow NATCA member and I think it answers a lot of questions. Enjoy...

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Put down your copy of Pushing Tin.


The truth is, the job sucks, even for those of us who LOVE it. We are not appreciated by those that we protect, even though we save and protect more lives on a daily basis than any other profession.


The pilots don’t understand or even listen sometimes. The average airline passenger isn’t even aware of the role we play in their flight.


Everything we say is recorded, and we are responsible to back it up in a court of law should the unthinkable happen. We are responsible for knowing more rules than humanly possible. Frequently, the rules change. No mistakes are allowed.


We tend to have superiority complexes. We are in control. We control everything in our environment. It effects our personal life in ways that a non-controller (you) cannot possibly imagine. Your spouse will not understand you or your job.


You can’t bring the job home…but you will have crash dreams. You will control traffic in your sleep. You cannot imagine the stress, which comes not from the job of separating aircraft, but the combination of ridiculous schedules, lack of sleep and overbearing management.


You can never again tolerate a read-back error at a drive thru restaurant. Indecision is unacceptable in any scenario…especially from those you love. You will have a lack of tolerance in communication. You expect people to say what they mean and mean what they say. Life is black and white (yes…it is…there is no gray).


Driving will never be the same again…you will use “anticipated separation”.
Controllers come in 2 varieties: the home schooler/Bible thumpers or the drunks. Most controllers start as the latter, and end as the former. There is something “not right” about ALL of us. You will either look 10 yrs older than your age or 10 yrs younger than your age. You will be on blood pressure medication at an early age.


You never get normal sleep (this part REALLY sucks). You will work in the middle of the night and holidays (Christmas, Thanksgiving, Birthdays). You will never have “normal” days off. Getting over eight hours off between the time one shift ends and the next begins is a luxury.
You will never have a regular social life. You can’t participate in your kids school activities. Your friends won’t understand that you can’t leave work or get off work. They won’t even be able to figure out your rotating schedule. They’ll stop calling because you’re never home, or you’re just leaving for work.


People will think that you are the idiot on the ramp with the lights.
You may be the last person a pilot talks to, and hear the terror in his voice. You will never forget it. Ever. You will relive it again and again.

You won’t make the money that we do (or used to make before the Republican Congress couldn’t stand the fact that some of the oldest controllers in the busiest facilities made *GASP* almost as much money as a newly-elected freshman Congressman). The new pay bands will never let THAT happen again. You might eventually get the house and the cars and the vacation home. We have them, and the clothes, the watch, the shoes, the attitude to go with it. We’ll sit back and finish out our careers without ever seeing another raise, while you struggle from paycheck to paycheck on the new “equitable” starting salaries.


We are unbelievably hard on each other (ridiculously hard). Thick skin is an understatement. No crying allowed. When you fail we will laugh at you (and laugh hard we will). When you succeed we won’t even acknowledge it (it’s your job…so what?)


Workplace morale? What’s that? All anyone at work ever talks about is “how much longer until I can retire”. The striking PATCO controllers in 1981 had higher morale than today’s controller workforce. Management is a joke, and consists mostly of people patting themselves on the back for catching a controller doing something wrong.


Still think you want to become an air traffic controller? Go get a job at Taco Bell as a manager-trainee instead. You’ll make more money and have less headaches.
 
Everything said there is exactly the experience of my buddy at Memphis Center. Now he's happily playing music on Beale Street a couple nights a week. Controlling sucks, glad I didn't pick it up for a fall back job.
 
BRAVO, FX i couldnt say it better my self.i dont know any controllers that are NORMAL , normal people dont seem to make it for long.you see nubees before sept 3 2006 the pay and work rules made up for all the other crap we put up with, now you be makeing less than i made 12 years ago.all the PATCO rehires that i work with have told me the same thing, conditions are worse now than in 1981.

iam not trying to talk anyone from not applying ,what iam saying is if you think 2nd class pay and work rules are ok, than i have no problem. but i dont ever want to hear you nubees bitching about how bad it is, you have all been warned.
 
I don't think the moderators should "trash this thread". I think that Veteran ATC's have the right to warn future ATC's. Let them KNOW what they are getting into. And really how they are feeling about their job currently! In reality...they are just trying help everyone out to see what they see!

Second...I don't see any rule violations and they are just stating their opinions like many of the nubee ATC's that they think the job will be great.

There is OBVIOUSLY a chasm in feelings between current ATC's and future ATCs. I find very few in the middle. The things is...I do NOT think the disgruntled ATC's are going to change the new, future and wannabe ATC's mind that it is a great opportunity. Everyone has their own view and I don't think one side is going to "convince" the other side of their feelings.

Okay...off my soapbox
 
I don't need to hear about it in every new thread that appears. I posted a reply to that VERY same "letter" that Fox Xray posted in another thread. I quoted a veteran controller from the ATCCTI forum that basically called that letter a load of bologna and told its author to quit whining.
 
AMEN SOONER:nana2:


I second that!

But I think that the majority of the newbies understand that some people are just plain miserable. Anyone who is discouraged from being an ATC by all these negative posts would probably be discouraged by the job once they got into it. I suppose I would rather work with people who would "be a duck" and let things roll of their back.

Whatever, I am tired of hearing the same thing over and over again, but maybe it will help me get used to what I'll be hearing from the people I'll be working with in the future.

Everyone who is discouraged by the post should read Sooner's reply in the other thread. It helps give both sides of the story, which is always good to hear.

Just a thought.
 
I agree you don't need to hear it on every thread...however, BEFORE I read this thread, I KNEW what it was going to say. Avoid those threads if you are sick of it! Also, you know the posts that annoy you (heck mine might be ones that annoy you)...if that is the case...avoiding reading posts by that person!

I am in hopes of my husband being hired to the FAA and I actually see things more like Zoesmom, ATCsooner and codwell; however, I just think it is :banghead: for us nubees to think that some of the older ATC vets are going to change their minds in how they feel about their jobs because we think it looks good.

I personally know some ATC's and they are worn out from working soooo much! Now I don't think every thread should be "this job sucks" at the same time...we are all saying what a great opportunity it is. Why do we have the right to say what a great opportunity and they don't have the right to say it sucks right now? I think the ball needs to roll both ways. They can avoid our posts and we can avoid theirs. They should have a place to vent the same as we should have a place to be excited!
 
i never said the job sucks , the employeer sucks, but youll all learn in good time nubees
 
i never said the job sucks , the employeer sucks, but youll all learn in good time nubees


queeno,

I've been watching your posts for some time, and I have to join the chorus. Your words fall on deaf ears. I don't know if you've been awake for the past, say 7 years, but everybody's employer sucks lately. This isn't an excuse for the FAA, but nobody's going to be surprised that another boss is willing to screw over his employees. That's life. It should be noted though, that controllers have a union that's making noise, even if it's not helping much. Right now, I'd love a union to be helping me out.

Maybe being a controller is a good job that you do for an employer not worth your time, but some of us spent the last 20 years looking up and dreaming of the day when we would get to fly planes, or be a controller, or even just fix the damn things. I know I have.

I also know what I'm made of. I'm capable of doing this job, and I'm capable of doing it well. I will do it well. Not many professions have a flood of applicants the way air traffic control does. I'm sure in your mind it's all about the money. Your mind would be wrong. Very wrong. I think most of us nubees would agree about that. I guess you'll learn in good time
 
I suggest the moderators trash this thread. Queeno - I'm really tired of hearing YOUR "complaining".

I wouldn't trash talk him...Seems like hes been in the business for a while and knows whats going on. Become a controller and then you can maybe earn some respect...
this forum seems to be filled with people that have no controlling experience and think they know what its all about. I am not as experienced as some people but i'm experienced enough to know that you have to work the scope and be humble about your business and know that your are a piece of S#IT until you earn your first facility rating. queeno and ATLTRACON are the only people here that I look up at and one day hope too and hope to be a damn good controller that I know they are.....
 
I wouldn't trash talk him...Seems like hes been in the business for a while and knows whats going on. Become a controller and then you can maybe earn some respect...
this forum seems to be filled with people that have no controlling experience and think they know what its all about. I am not as experienced as some people but i'm experienced enough to know that you have to work the scope and be humble about your business and know that your are a piece of S#IT until you earn your first facility rating. queeno and ATLTRACON are the only people here that I look up at and one day hope too and hope to be a damn good controller that I know they are.....

Probably one of the best posts I've seen on this board. I am a facility rated controller through the military, but even I know it's at a level 5 or 6 facility and I still have a LOT to learn. I was told by my trainers and chief controller that I have a natural ability to control and I still don't get a big head.

I'm waiting on an interview for ZID and I'm so excited about the job yet still nervous. I know what it's like to get my a$$ kicked working radar at a low level facility.
My rating day I worked more traffic in 2 hours than I had the last 2 months combined and more stuff went wrong than ever before. But that's ATC.

I'm not going to go to ZID with a big head. I'm going to listen to the veteran controllers, be very open with advice, and learn from them.

That's the best piece of advice I can give any new controller. Your AT-SAT score doesn't mean ####. How you scored at CTI doesn't matter. How you did in OKC won't mean a damn thing. When you plug in to real traffic for the first time and have the first real emergency...that's your true test. Especially when it happens when you are already getting ur butt kicked.

I salute you veteran controllers on this board. My dad has worked at ZID for 20+ years, and i'm proud that I get to follow in his footsteps. I have much to learn and I know it. And I'm excited to learn from you guys :rawk:
 
queeno,

I've been watching your posts for some time, and I have to join the chorus. Your words fall on deaf ears. I don't know if you've been awake for the past, say 7 years, but everybody's employer sucks lately. This isn't an excuse for the FAA, but nobody's going to be surprised that another boss is willing to screw over his employees. That's life. It should be noted though, that controllers have a union that's making noise, even if it's not helping much. Right now, I'd love a union to be helping me out.

Maybe being a controller is a good job that you do for an employer not worth your time, but some of us spent the last 20 years looking up and dreaming of the day when we would get to fly planes, or be a controller, or even just fix the damn things. I know I have.

I also know what I'm made of. I'm capable of doing this job, and I'm capable of doing it well. I will do it well. Not many professions have a flood of applicants the way air traffic control does. I'm sure in your mind it's all about the money. Your mind would be wrong. Very wrong. I think most of us nubees would agree about that. I guess you'll learn in good time

sounds to me that you are excusing the FAAs pay and work rules.they are offering you 2nd class pay and rules and you gonna gobble it up.just listen to them tell congress that theres no problem getting takers for what is being offered.you nubees are giving them no reason to change.

as for thinking that you have the skills to do the job, well that has yet to be seen.your not one of those VATSIM folks that think because you controlled on the internet that you have skills? please dont be that guy.

but thats right youve got 28 years of controlling, oh no thats right that would be ME.untill you have sat in front of the monster on you own ticket you dont know S##T.ive seen a lot of big talkers over the years that couldnt take it and ran away to an office job, but iam still here after 28 years iam still here.
 
I suggest the moderators trash this thread. Queeno - I'm really tired of hearing YOUR "complaining".

Pull your head out of that Oklahoma City dirt and listen.

Maybe you wouldn't be so upset about the truth if you LISTENED to the truth, and analyzed it.

Ignorance is bliss isn't it?
 
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