Seat belts!! Int. Quest.

[sigpilot]

This is a lot like the cockpit door opening on the takeoff roll. Which happened a few times on the Saab and once on the 170 due to the door not being properly secured. Each time we continued and closed the door after climbing through a safe altitude.

When you at LGA and cleared for an immediate takeoff with traffic on a 2 mile final its safer to continue just like a seat belt. If something happens and you slam into the windshield its your own damn fault..

 

[wzgrza]

I agree with everyone above.

But now lets say, that the improbable happens, the airplane hits some massive turbulence on take-off and the pilot without the seat-belt gets launched from his seat and in some way with his body blocks the controls somehow, causing the airplane to somehow crash (yea, very specific I know lol) I imagine everyone would probably be all over the flight-crew for not having their seat-belts secured, and that they should have aborted the take-off when they had the chance and when one of the pilots saw the other without seatbelts on the take-off roll. I wonder how the investigation would play out, assuming that on the voice recorder, during the take-off roll the seat-belts are mentioned (which they probably wouldnt be, but lets say "what if" ).

 

[flyguy]

I agree with everyone above.

But now lets say, that the improbable happens, the airplane hits some massive turbulence on take-off and the pilot without the seat-belt gets launched from his seat and in some way with his body blocks the controls somehow, causing the airplane to somehow crash (yea, very specific I know lol) I imagine everyone would probably be all over the flight-crew for not having their seat-belts secured, and that they should have aborted the take-off when they had the chance and when one of the pilots saw the other without seatbelts on the take-off roll. I wonder how the investigation would play out, assuming that on the voice recorder, during the take-off roll the seat-belts are mentioned (which they probably wouldnt be, but lets say "what if" ).

OOhhh...I wanna play.

Okay, well, what if they decide to abort, and the pilot without the seatbelt gets trust forward and his leg goes straight into one of the rudder pedals, causing the plane to violently veer off the runway and on to the parellel runway right in front of a 747 on its takoff roll, the two planes colide, there is a huge explosion, 400 dead passengers and crew, and it turns into one of those infamous stories that they teach about in airline ground schools. Would the investigatiors not say they should have continued the takeoff?

 

[wzgrza]

OOhhh...I wanna play.

Okay, well, what if they decide to abort, and the pilot without the seatbelt gets trust forward and his leg goes straight into one of the rudder pedals, causing the plane to violently veer off the runway and on to the parellel runway right in front of a 747 on its takoff roll, the two planes colide, there is a huge explosion, 400 dead passengers and crew, and it turns into one of those infamous stories that they teach about in airline ground schools. Would the investigatiors not say they should have continued the takeoff?

I imagine at that point they would have to revise the FAR on seatbelts to something like "seatbelts must be fastened during taxi-takeoff-landing, unless the fastening of, or measures taken to fasten, or attempts made to fasten seatbelts during the above listed operations, will compromise the safety of the flight or operation."

:bandit:

 

[jynxyjoe]

Re: So long suckers!

I'd wait until v1, then abort the takeoff

I'd steer the plane off in to the grass

Then I'd pull all the fire handle and blow the bottles

Then I'd order the FAs to blow all the slides

Then I'd hack apart the cockpit voice recorder with the crash axe

Then I'd takeoff all my clothes, go streaking through the cabin, jump out the aft slide and yell: "SO LONG, SUCKERS!"




:drool:

Only thing I'd add to that is plug in the MP3 player and have the FO blare Benny Hill music over the PA at top volume.

 

[Bumblebee]

We have seatbelt and shoulder harness checks in our checklist as well. I would not abort the takeoff, and would fix it once I was at a safe altitude. If the FAA noticed, I would say, "I'll never do that again", and then file the ASAP.

Other than that I would self disclose to the captain, and would follow his suggestion.

Ethan, it's a lot more bumpy in the turboprop. . . maybe you don't need seatbelts in a jetyou can find out in a week or so

 

[Judge]

Never abort for someone not wearing a seatbealt. Where is the danger to flight? No where! Control malfunctions or interruptions can happen in many different scenarios. If your other pilot is eating a sandwich during rotation there is no reason to abort. A reason to strike them with a club, maybe. But no reason to abort the takeoff resulting in further danger to everyone else aboard. Use common sense in operating a/c and you will be quite happy.