ZED/ID-90 vs. CASS Jumpseating?

Mattio

Mattio

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Can someone please tell me what the point of purchasing a zed fare or ID-90 is if you are in CASS and can jumpseat?
 
Well for pilots its kind of pointless. I think they are mainly there for other airline workers and for significant others or family members who qualify.

-Rob
 
kellwolf said:
If you've got a JS agreement with the carrier, an ID90 wouldn't help you any. The only difference is you can't ride up front, which you can't do with an ID90 anyway.
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That may be true for travel within the USA, however use the word "jumpseat" in a foreign country even to a US carrier's gate agents and you might get some strange looks. Plus CASS only applies to domestic US travel on US flag carriers. A lot of US carriers will contract their gate work to foreign carriers since they only work one or two flights a day per station. European pilots can't jumpseat for the most part so it's really not a part of their employee travel. Furthermore even if you are able to jumpseat overseas you are still subject to departure taxes which are usually included in Zed fairs. When overseas and on vacation I'll use a ZED fair every time since jumpseating isn't worth the hassle. Plus I'd just assume sit in the back and enjoy a beer on a 6+ hour flight.
 
Great, thanks for the info guys!

I plan on flying up to Nova Scotia to visit my cousin, possibly on Air Canada, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to do it (I work for Colgan BTW). I assumed that I could jumpseat with CASS but I guess this may not be the case since it's out of the country...?
 
Mattio said:
Great, thanks for the info guys!

I plan on flying up to Nova Scotia to visit my cousin, possibly on Air Canada, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to do it (I work for Colgan BTW). I assumed that I could jumpseat with CASS but I guess this may not be the case since it's out of the country...?
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CASS won't help you for Canada since you can't ride on the flight deck in or out of the country. However you can "jumpseat" but you must occupy a cabin seat but that has nothing to do with CASS. CASS is only for cockpit authorization nothing else. I believe Air Canada will accomodate you in the cabin as a jumpseater but be prepared to pay departure taxes. The ticket counter/gate agent will probably be able to tell you how to do it...it won't be free coming back to the US regardless of what type of pass you use. It probably won't cost you much. My advice is try to jumpseat first but take a round trip ZED fare with you as a backup...remember a ZED fair is 100% refundable if you don't use it. For that reason TAKE THEM WITH YOU as most of the time gate agents at outstations either have no idea or are TOTALLY unwilling to help you purchase them. It'll save you a lot of time and heart ache. I will say that Canadian gate agents will be much more accomodating for jumpseating than say Europe or Asia. They "get" it more than some places...the same is true of the Carribean although that doesn't mean they'll give you any attention.

Also keep in mind if the flights are pretty full ZED/ID90 pass travellers have boarding priority over all jumpeaters...either on or off line....for cabin seats.
 
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