New Reduced Rest at Colgan?
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SmitteyB
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No.
We were supposed to be today;s morning crew, they moved us to afternoon due to MX issue. Then with the WX today around Upstate NY there is ground stops for LGA, etc. Causing us to get in later tonight, which makes us illegal for tomorrow morning.
Hopefully it wont get the point where I have to speak to the Duty Officer, but we'll see.
dingo222
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dude, you know how it works here. THey haven't even looked at tomorrow yet. When you get done later tonight, they will adjust your show tomorrow morning. Some poor sucker on reserve tomorrow in Bumpass,Va will get the last hour call at o'dark thirty to play planes,trains, and automobiles to cover your morning. IF not, tell them 9 hrs of rest, reducable to 8, so call you back when your rest period is up and then hang up. We just have too many noobs in there right now not too sure of the rules.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Ah... I was wondering when this was going to finally play out. And I know it was only by 4, but you guys (legally) don't deserve a seat at the table. Stupid law of the majority.
Just remember though, "competency" still doesn't always mean "right". Good luck with all that.
Just remember though, "competency" still doesn't always mean "right". Good luck with all that.
Firebird2XC
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Like the old ones really did?
dingo222
Well-Known Member
THey did if you had the cajones to tell them so. THat's half the prob at colgan. Too many captains and fo's either 1. don't know the rules, or 2. cave in when pushed. GOes back to you post earlier about having a contract but knowing what's in it.
Firebird2XC
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Yeah, I told 'em no once or twice. Had to call 'em back a few times after I double checked some stuff.
The wankers didn't really care if it was really legal or right or not.. just that it looked close enough to get you to do it. I had a few times where required rest put me within minutes of a departure time for a first flight. Rather than push the flight back, they'd just slide my showtime right up next to it. I'm sure they expected me to show early on the sly.
I hope their on-time performance fully reflected my opinion of that.
Airdale
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OR - because its a NON Union carrier, new employees are AFFRAID to speak up or put their foot down in fear they will get fired. Get Fired = Bad in this business. I know thats why I personally tried not to cause any problems.
I don't miss CJC one bit. Even the training is better at other places.
No truck stop hotels, a real paycheck during training and manuals that actually make sense. But it could always be worse, like Great Lakes for example. :laff:
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
And make sure they don't overfly you the next day. Also make sure your comp rest starts within 24 hours, too.
Firebird2XC
Well-Known Member
OR - because its a NON Union carrier, new employees are AFFRAID to speak up or put their foot down in fear they will get fired. Get Fired = Bad in this business. I know thats why I personally tried not to cause any problems.
I don't miss CJC one bit. Even the training is better at other places.
Now you know how I felt.. and how it feels.
Like Amber says- 'You never know how good it feels to not be banging your head against a wall until you stop'.
Airdale
Well-Known Member
Now you know how I felt.. and how it feels.
Like Amber says- 'You never know how good it feels to not be banging your head against a wall until you stop'.
Well, I'm not proclaiming that this place is better - yet. Keeping in mind that everyone drinks some kool-aid the first couple of months. But - so far - the training has been more organized and better put together then Colgan. Including the accomodations and what you are paid while here. The training materials and Company manuals are much better as well. Studying is a lot easier thanks to the organization.
I just got the Jungle jet FMS book today. Ouch. :banghead:
I think I miss the Beech already.
Just a reminder, according to the regulations "the company may not schedule and YOU MAY NOT ACCEPT" an illegal schedule. The monkey is at least half on your back. So know the rules and don't let the company put your ticket at risk.
Firebird2XC
Well-Known Member
Well, I'm not proclaiming that this place is better - yet. Keeping in mind that everyone drinks some kool-aid the first couple of months. But - so far - the training has been more organized and better put together then Colgan. Including the accomodations and what you are paid while here. The training materials and Company manuals are much better as well. Studying is a lot easier thanks to the organization.
I just got the Jungle jet FMS book today. Ouch. :banghead:
I think I miss the Beech already.
Don't stress. The FMS is a little daunting at first but once you get the hang of it you'll wonder how you ever did without it. It's really an amazing tool to have.
You're right about the kool-aid thing.. but my new gig had CJC beat within the first few days, by outright comparison.