Seat belts!! Int. Quest.

bartman said:
I think I know where my luggage went the last time I flew with Doug....
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You probably thought I was a Skycap when I was getting out of the hotel van.

Then I took your money, "processed" your bag and now it's being picked apart at Goodwill in Fresno! :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
You probably thought I was a Skycap when I was getting out of the hotel van.

Then I took your money, "processed" your bag and now it's being picked apart at Goodwill in Fresno! :)
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No, I figured you did a low-level luggage bombing run over Near Rockaway (or maybe it was Far?) :laff:
 
It was ballast because OldTownPilot freaking loaded the aircraft way out of CG range! :)
 
Fly, and abort, what you brief.

Below 80 knots - abort for red and orange lights in your face.

Above 80 knots - abort for engine fire, failure, loss of directional control or any red lights in your face.

Above V1 we're going flying unless we have a control issue that will prevent us from rotating (citing the CHQ guys in JFK that aborted at like V2+15 when they couldn't rotate).

Ain't no seatbelts in there!
 
Those guys were lucky they were on such a long runway and not someplace like Ashville or some other podunk little airport or they woulda been grade a fux0red.
 
If you call an abort, and the PF (assuming the Capt) slams on the brakes, you are gonna end up part of the instrument panel. Now, if you end up incapacitated due to slamming your head off the glareshield, you have a first hand lesson on the reason for the seatbelt in the first place.

jtrain609 said:
Fly, and abort, what you brief.

Below 80 knots - abort for red and orange lights in your face.

Above 80 knots - abort for engine fire, failure, loss of directional control or any red lights in your face.

Above V1 we're going flying unless we have a control issue that will prevent us from rotating (citing the CHQ guys in JFK that aborted at like V2+15 when they couldn't rotate).

Ain't no seatbelts in there!
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This about sums it up for me!

My interview answer: "I would continue the takeoff and fasten it at the soonest possible, SAFE time." If asked about breaking the regs, my response would be: "If we aborted the T/O, we would be putting our pax, crew, aircraft, and company at risk both physically and financially. Continuing the T/O is the SAFEST option and the reason we are supposed to wear seatbelts, is to provide protection in the event of unusual circumstances, such as an aborted T/O."

Something along those lines.
 
NightCargo said:
If you call an abort, and the PF (assuming the Capt) slams on the brakes, you are gonna end up part of the instrument panel. Now, if you end up incapacitated due to slamming your head off the glareshield, you have a first hand lesson on the reason for the seatbelt in the first place.
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:yeahthat:
I'm surprised you are the first one to bring that up. If we continue and we crash, I'll probably end up getting seriously injured or killed because I don't have my seatbelt on. But if we abort while I don't have my seatbelt on, again I'll probaly be injured. Now the chances of us crashing are pretty slim, so I'd go with that as being the safest option rather than the abort which will almost certainly lead to me being injured and puts the rest of the passengers at risk as well.

There is a difference between the letter of the law and intent of the law. The letter of the law may state that we must have our seatbelts on. But the intent of the law is to increase safety. If in this case continuing the takeoff is safter than aborting, common sense tells you that safety takes precedence over the law. That's how I would explain it in my interview also.
 
The belt is off, the reg is already broken. Why turn it into an emergency situation? Keep going and buy the other guy a beer later.
 
Re: So long suckers!

Mad Doggy Dog said:
I'd wait until v1, then abort the takeoff

I'd steer the plane off in to the grass

Then I'd pull all the fire handle and blow the bottles

Then I'd order the FAs to blow all the slides

Then I'd hack apart the cockpit voice recorder with the crash axe

Then I'd takeoff all my clothes, go streaking through the cabin, jump out the aft slide and yell: "SO LONG, SUCKERS!"

I believe this is standard checklist procedure in the sim..... so I'll choose this answer.:sarcasm:. If there is an FAA check airman in the jumpseat. I say call it if notices. If he didn't then dont do something stupid that will definitely cause you to fail the ride. In oppose to possibly putting yourself in danger.


:drool:
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flyguy said:
:yeahthat:
I'm surprised you are the first one to bring that up. If we continue and we crash, I'll probably end up getting seriously injured or killed because I don't have my seatbelt on. But if we abort while I don't have my seatbelt on, again I'll probaly be injured. Now the chances of us crashing are pretty slim, so I'd go with that as being the safest option rather than the abort which will almost certainly lead to me being injured and puts the rest of the passengers at risk as well.

There is a difference between the letter of the law and intent of the law. The letter of the law may state that we must have our seatbelts on. But the intent of the law is to increase safety. If in this case continuing the takeoff is safter than aborting, common sense tells you that safety takes precedence over the law. That's how I would explain it in my interview also.
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Good answer. I agree. It's important to keep your priorites in order and go with the safest option.
 
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