Low Timers are Finally Getting Mainstream Press

Back in the late 60's that was true. I'll concede that point as my being in error. However I'll point out that the whole of the industry, from technology to FAR's was very different. And if I recall, then, there was no mass increase of airline accident/incidents.

I take it you've never seen accident data from the 60's and 70's? :rolleyes:

If you had you wouldn't have said that.
 
My bet is that most people that are going to be sharing a cockpit with you for hours on end won't argue with your choice of religion, either.

Nope! But while religion doesn't come up in the cockpit, discussions of low timers, how they're affecting operations, how they're doing, what we're doing wrong as a whole and what I'm doing wrong specifically is an extremely common conversation that I've found as has been met with frankness and honesty on the part of the captains. If I screw something up they've been pretty willing to tell me, and I appreciate that.

How in the world am I supposed to get better at what I'm doing without somebody else critiquing things from a perspective that I'm not seeing?
 
Ohh brutha...Airline safety statistics are relative to the progression of technological development and the advancement of industry knowledge. Of course there were more accidents in the 60's and 70's...But comparatively the statistics were appropriate for the era. There were far more accidents, incidents in the 40's and 50's, 20's and 30's and so on. The spike in accidents of the period was directly related to a massive increase in industry volume. It was all relative.
 
Sigh....Pot kettle black. My BS is no more valid then yours. We disagree. I suggest we leave it at that.

Huh?

Oh right, internet forum, gotta dumb things down instead of taking the proper channels of attacking a persons data and the data that they use to compose their argument instead of the person. I forgot.

You're a poopy face.

(BTW You have yet to respond to my statement that there ARE metrics that identify safety besides crashes, and what safety encompasses. You haven't touched on that area, actually, and until we have some common ground to argue from, we're going no where. If you don't know how to do this, or are uninterested then that's fine, but until you actually respond to the points of my post, you're not really arguing, simply trying to spit in my face).
 
They are lowering the flight hour requirements for pilots from 1500 to 500, with only 50 of those hours in multi-engine planes.
Raising the mandatory retirement age for pilots from 60 to 65.
Partnering with flight schools to offer “accelerated” educational programs.

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t the most likely people to get into an accident in an automobile the young & inexperienced and the elderly? Is it really the best move to place those very demographics behind the wheel of a DC-10? Perhaps a better move to become more competitive when hiring would be to raise the starting salary from the $24,000 a year it sits at now? Essentially there is not really a shortage of pilots, just pilots that will work for that money when better money is available elsewhere.

Written by a person that doesn't have any idea about the history behind the "Age 60 retirement." If he did he wouldn't have made such a stupid statement.

I think it is safe to say that this guy doesn't really get it entirely. He tries to make some good points, but in the end it read like it was written by someone that has no in depth knowledge about the aviation industry, and was trying to take a stab at it.


Good attempt, poor execution.
 
Ohh brutha...Airline safety statistics are relative to the progression of technological development and the advancement of industry knowledge. Of course there were more accidents in the 60's and 70's...But comparatively the statistics were appropriate for the era. There were far more accidents, incidents in the 40's and 50's, 20's and 30's and so on. The spike in accidents of the period was directly related to a massive increase in industry volume. It was all relative.

Let's start over.

Do you believe airplanes, and moving at 450 knots in a pressurized tin can at 37,000' is intrinsically and innately safe to the human condition. Not, "Oh well the automation makes it safe," or, "but we make it safe!" Do you think that it is a good idea to put a human being hurtling at 450 knots in a pressurized tin can at 37,000' is a safe idea if the modern safeguards we have in place are gone?

Can you answer that for me please, then we can move on with the argument.
 
Huh?

Oh right, internet forum, gotta dumb things down instead of taking the proper channels of attacking a persons data and the data that they use to compose their argument instead of the person. I forgot.

You're a poopy face.

(BTW You have yet to respond to my statement that there ARE metrics that identify safety besides crashes, and what safety encompasses. You haven't touched on that area, actually, and until we have some common ground to argue from, we're going no where. If you don't know how to do this, or are uninterested then that's fine, but until you actually respond to the points of my post, you're not really arguing, simply trying to spit in my face).

You're the one making it personal bub, not me. I don't agree with you, period. I respect your opinion, but I don't share it. Getting mad about it and calling me names or labeling my points as BS is not going to motivate me to stay engaged with you on this topic.

And to answer your question. No. I also think there is no way to ever be safe anywhere at any time. You can die sitting in your easy chair from a meteor falling through your roof same as biting it in an airplane crash. One is more likely. But safety...I really don't prescribe to it as being all comfy and cozy. We do what we do due to choice. Driving to the store is far more dangerous then flying for 2 hours on a jet flown by a 250 hr pilot. Which one is more likely to result in accident or injury...

We are debating something that has such a low probability of resulting in catastrophe, low time pilots or not, that the whole debate is just rhetoric...It's just plain silly.
 
You're right, nevermind, you're never actually going to respond to what I'm saying anyways and continue to avoid my extremely direct questions towards you.

How's the weather where you are, maybe you're interested in that discussion. It's kinda cloudy here, with no chance of dropping days or being released from reserve.
 
You're right, nevermind, you're never actually going to respond to what I'm saying anyways and continue to avoid my extremely direct questions towards you.

How's the weather where you are, maybe you're interested in that discussion. It's kinda cloudy here, with no chance of dropping days or being released from reserve.

Can't help with that one...I'm a line holder. And I think I did answer your last direct question....directly.
 
Where? I see no point/counter point. Maybe I don't know how to read, but it looks to me like you avoided my points like the plague instead of responding to them. Here! I'll give you another shot to another question that you did not answer.

Let's start over.

Do you believe airplanes, and moving at 450 knots in a pressurized tin can at 37,000' is intrinsically and innately safe to the human condition. Not, "Oh well the automation makes it safe," or, "but we make it safe!" Do you think that it is a good idea to put a human being hurtling at 450 knots in a pressurized tin can at 37,000' is a safe idea if the modern safeguards we have in place are gone?

Can you answer that for me please, then we can move on with the argument (which actually means discussion, BTW).

If you're unwilling to find some common ground, by first answering the root question at hand, then the discussion goes nowhere.
 
What part of "no" did you fail to grasp? Let me clarify my answer to your question:

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[Delaware, see Lenape]
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[Dohema, see Eudeve]
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[Eskimo, see Inuktitut and Inuttut]
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[Kartuli, see Georgian]
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Khakea (Botswana, Namibia) ||ka
Khmer [Cambodian] (Cambodia) Te
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Khmu (Laos) Pa
Khowar (Central Asia) No
Khowar (Central Asia) Moh
Kiga (Africa) Ingaaha
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Kinyarwanda (Rwanda) Oya
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Koasati (Alabama & Oklahoma United States) Íniko
Kohistani (Central Asia) Ni
Koiari (Papua New Guinea) Bebe
Komi-Permyak (Russia) Aga
Komi-Zyryan (Russia) Abu
Konkani [Konknni] (India) Naa
Korean (Korea) Aniyo
Korean (Korea) Animnida
Koromfe (Burkina Faso) Ajo
Koromfe (Burkina Faso) Ajej
Kosraean (Micronesia) Moh
Krèyol (Haiti) Non
Kriol (Northern Australia) Nomo
Kukatja (Australia) Wiya
Kuna (Panama) Suli
Kung-ekoka (Angola) |kúa
Kung-ekoka (Angola) |kúi
Kurak (northwestern California USA) Pûuhara
Kurdi [Kurmanji] (Iran, Iraq) Na
Kurdi [Kurmanji] (Iran, Iraq) Ne
Kurdi [Kurmanji] (Iran, Iraq) Neu
Kurdi [Kurmanji] (Iran, Iraq) No
Kurukh (India) Mala
Kutenai (BC Canada, Idaho & Montana USA) Mats
Kutthung (Australia) Gooran
Kwanyama (Angola, Namibia) Aaye
Kwanyama (Angola, Namibia) [emphatic] Ahawe
Kwanyama (Angola, Namibia) [emphatic] Ahowe
[Kweyol, see Creole]
=/Kh'au//'e (Botwana, Namibia) |ka
=/Kh'au//'e (Botwana, Namibia) |kwa
=/Kh'au//'e (Botwana, Namibia) ka:

Ladakhi (India, Pakistan) Man
Ladakhi (India, Pakistan) Biduk
Ladin (Italy) No
Lagunillas (Bolivia) Áni
Lahu (Thailand) Mah hey
Laiman (North America) Ñi
Lakhota (North America) Hiya
Lakhota (North America) Shnee
Lao (Laos) Bo
[Lappish, see Sami]
Latin (ancient Rome, Vatican) Non
Latin (ancient Rome, Vatican) Nullus
Latin (ancient Rome, Vatican) Minime
Latvian (Latvia) Ne
Lenakel (New Hebrides Pacifc Islands) Kapwa
Lenape [Delaware] (United States) Ku
Lenape [Delaware] (United States) Mata
Lenape (Delaware United States) Kuta
Lenape (Delaware United States) U mayay
Lenape (Delaware United States) Ta hashi
Lenape (Delaware United States) Ta chich
Lenape (Delaware United States) Mahchikwi
Lenape (Delaware United States) Alalan
Lenape (Delaware United States) Ku kesi
Lenape (Delaware United States) Ku nkesi
Lenape (Delaware United States) Ku ktakohchi
Lenape (Delaware United States) Ku ntakohchi
Lenape (Delaware United States) Okeksene
Leningitij (Australia) Ngga'
Lingala (Congo, Angola) Té
Lingua Franca (Mediterranean) No
Lingua Franca (Mediterranean) Non
Lithuanian (Lithuania) Ne
Lithuanian (Lithuania) [very informal] A'a
Lithuanian (Lithuania) [very informal] M'm
Livonian (Latvia, Estonia) Äb
Livonian (Latvia, Estonia) [you] Ät
Livonian (Latvia, Estonia) [me/I] Äb
Loglan (international) No
Low Saxon (Eastern Friesland) Nee
Low Saxon [Northern Low Saxon] (Germany) Nee
Low Saxon [Westphalian] (Germany) Ne
[Luganda, see Ganda]
Luiseño (Southern California USA) Qay
Luiseño (Southern California USA) Gai
Lunda (Zambia) Inehi
Lunyankole (South Uganda) Ngaaha
Lunyoro (West Uganda) Nangwa
Lunyoro (West Uganda) Kwaha
Luo (Sudan, Kenya) Ooyo
Lushootseed (Seattle Washington USA) Xwí?
Luvale (Zambia) Kagute
Luxemburgish (Luxemburg) Neen
Luxemburgish (Luxemburg) Nee

Mabuiag (Australia) Lawnga
Macedonian (Macedonia) Ne
Mae [Emwae] (New Hebrides Pacifc Islands) Ikai
Magindano (New Guinea) Dele
[Magyar, see Hungarian]
Malagasy (Madagascar) Tsia
Malagasy (Madagascar) An, an
Malay (Malaysia, Brunei) Tidak
Malay (Malaysia, Brunei) Bukan
Maltese (Malta) Le
Mam (Guatemala) Mi
Mam (Guatemala) Min
Mampruli (Ghana) Ai
Mamu (Queensland Australia) Yimba
Manchu (China) Waka
Manchu (China) [not] Aku
Mandarin [Chinese] (China) Bu shi zhe yang
Mandarin [Chinese] (China) Bu dui
Mandarin [Chinese] (China) Meiyou
Mandarin [Chinese] (China) Bu shi
Mandinka (Senegal, Gambia) Hani
Mang (China, Thailand, Vietnam) Ham
Mansi [Vogul] (Russia) Aat
Maohi (South Pacific) Aita
Maori (New Zealand) Kao
Maori (Cook Islands) Kare
[Mapuche, see Mapudungun]
Mapudungun [Mapuche] (Chile) Mü
Marathi (Maharashtra India) Nahi
Mari (Russia) Uke
Maridjabin (Australia) Ampi
Marimanindji (Australia) Mampi
Maringgar (Australia) Ampu
Marshallese (Marshall Islands) Jaab
Masai (Kenya, Tanzania) Mme
Mashi (Bukavu Congo-Kinshasa) Nanga
[Mayan, see Yucatec Maya]
Mayupampa (Bolivia) Aepotá?a
Mende (Sierra Leone) A-a
Meriam Mir (Australia) Nole
[Miao, see Hmong]
Michahay Yokuts (California USA) Gâmu
Michif [Turtle Mt. Chippewa Cree] (Canada) Noo
Michif [Turtle Mt. Chippewa Cree] (Canada) Pa miyeur
Mien (Laos, Thailand) Mv [+ subject]
Mien (Laos, Thailand) Maiv [+ subject]
Mien (Vietnam) M´i mái
Mikmaq (Canada) Moqwa
Mina (Togo) Ao
Minangkabau (West Sumatra Indonesia) Indak
Mingo (North America) Hë'ë
Miskito (Nicargua, Honduras) Apia
Miwok [Amador] (NE Sierra California USA) Ewutû
Miwok [Bodega] (West Coast California USA) Hama
Miwok [Lake] (N Coast Califorina USA) Hella
Miwok [Marin] (S Coast Califorina USA) Huma
Miwok [Mariposa] (S Sierra California USA) Ken
Miwok [N Sierra] (N Sierra California USA) 'Ewyty'
Miwok [N Sierra] (Calif. USA) [informal] 'E'eh
Miwok [Plains] (NW Sierra California USA) Hela
Miwok [Tuolomne] (Central Sierra Cal. USA) Ewutu
Mixe (Mexico) Ka'p
Mixe (Juquila Mexico) Kiáp
Mixe (Totontepec Mexico) Ka
Mixtec (Santa Catarina Estetla Mexico) Ña d+u
Mixtec (Xicayan Mexico) Koó
Mixtec (Oaxaca Mexico) Tú'
Mixtec (Oaxaca Mexico) Túu
Mlabri (Laos, Thailand) Met
Mobilian (North America) Ekshu
Modoc (Northern California) Q'ay
Möhineyam (California United States) Nau
Mon (Burma) H&ugravee;'
Mon (Thailand) Ha
Monegasque (Monaco) Non
Mongolian (Mongolia) Ügüi
Mongolian (Mongolia) [not this] Bish
Mono (Inyo California USA) Karu
Mono (North Fork California USA) Gadu
Mono (North Fork California USA) Garu
Mòoré (Burkina Faso) Ayo
Mopá-maya (Guatemala) Ma'
Mordvin (Russia) Aras
Mordvin (Russia) Ajaš
Mordvin (Russia) Aš
Mullukmulluk (Australia) Akana

Náhuatl [Aztec] (Mexico, El Salvador) Amo
Nakota (USA, Canada) Hiya
Nanai (Russia) Edi
Nanai (Russia) Ana:
Nandi (Kenya) Achicha
Nangikurrunggurr (Australia) Minta
Nauruan (Nauru Oceania) Iòk
Nauruan (Nauru Oceania) Deò ei
Navajo (United States) Dooda
Navajo (United States) Ndaga'
Naxi (Yunnan China) Me waq
Ndebele (Southern Africa) Hayi
Ndjebbana (Australia) Koma
Ndjuka (Suriname) Nono
Nenets (Russia) Ya'ngo
Nepali (Nepal) Ahaa
Nepali (Nepal) [definition] Hoina
Nepali (Nepal) [location] Chaina
Newari (Nepal) Makhu
Ngadjonji (Australia) Ngarru
Ngadjunma (Australia) Jowandjan
Ngbaka (Africa) Ùú
Nhirrpi (Australia) [lit. don't] Warrayi
Nigerian Pidgin (Nigeria) No
Norwegian [Nynorsk, Bokmaal] (Norway) Nei
Norwegian [Sortlandsk] (Sortland Norway) Næi
Nukuoro (Pacific Islands) Deai
Nupe (Africa) Áà
Nupe (Africa) Àwâ
Nutúnutu Yokuts (Kings River Calif. USA) Ohò'm
Nyungar (Australia) Juat

[Occitan, see Provencal]
[Ocuilteco, see Tlahuica]
Ofo (North America) Ni
Ojibwe [Chippewa] (United States) Gaawesa
Opata (Mexico) Kai
Orok (Russia) Ana
Osage (North America) Hon'-ka-zhi
Osage (North America) On'ka-zhi
Ossetian (Caucasus) Nö
Ossetian (Caucasus) Næ
Ossetian (Caucasus) Noun
Otetela (Lodja Congo-Kinshasa) Mbu
!O!ung (Angola) |kwa
!O!ung (Angola) |kwi
!O!ung (Angola) Kwi

Paamese (Vanuatu) Vuo
Paamese (Vanuatu) Vuol
Paamese (Vanuatu) Vuel
Pakanh (Australia) Ya'a
Palewyami Yokuts (Poso Creek Calif. USA) K'ami
[Palpamadramadra, see Nhirrpi]
Pame (Mexico) Mwi
Pame (Mexico) Pame
Pangan (Ulu Aring Malaysia) Ning
Pangan (Kerbat Malaysia) Neng
Papago (United States, Mexico) Pia'a
Pappua (Papua New Guinea) Roba
Parana (Bolivia) Aní
Parintintin (Brazil) Nãhã
Pashto (Afghanistan, Pakistan) Na
Pashto (Afghanistan, Pakistan) Nakhayr
Passamaqoddy (Maine USA) [polite] Kotama
Passamaqoddy (Maine USA) [slang] Konotiri
Passamaqoddy (Maine USA) [slang] Ne
Paumarí (Brazil) [answer to question] Iniani
Paumarí (Brazil) [forbidding] Hari'a
Pauserna (Bolivia) Áni
Paviotso (California United States) Karu
Pende (Congo-Kinshasa) M'khu
[Penobscot, see Abenaki]
[Persian, see Farsi]
Phorhépecha [Purépecha] (Mexico) Ámbe
Phorhépecha [Purépecha] (Mexico) Ástarhu
Phorhépecha [Purépecha] (Mexico) Ási
[Pidgin English, see Nigerian Pidgin, Pijin and Tok Pisin]
Pijin (Solomon Islands) No
Pijin (Solomon Islands) Nomoa
[Pikanii, see Blackfoot]
Pima (Mexico) Pia'a
Pipil (El Salvador) Inte
Pipil (El Salvador) Tesu
Pipil (El Salvador) Tee
Pitjantjatjara (Australia) Wiya
Pikern (Pitcairn Island) Eeno
Plattdeutsch (Germany) Nau
Plattdeutsch (Germany) Nee
[Plautdietsch, see Plattdeutsch]
Pocomam (Guatemala) Ma
Pocomam (Guatemala) Ntaj
Pocomam (Guatemala) Ntax
Pocomam (Guatemala) Ta
Pocomchi (Guatemala) Maa
Pocomchi (Guatemala) Ma...ta
Polish (Poland) Nie
Polynesian (Polynesia) Si'ai
Polynesian (Polynesia) Siei
Pomo (California USA) Kui
Popoloca (Mexico) Da'
Popoluca (Mexico) Caj
Portuguese (Portugal, Brazil) Não
Potawatomi (North America) Co
Provencal [Occitan] (France) Non
Provencal [Occitan] (France) [formal] Nani
[Pular, see Fulani]
Punjabi (India) Naheen
Punjabi (India) Nahi
Pulawat (Micronesia) Yaapw
Pulawat (Micronesia) Mmm
Pulawat (Micronesia) Yeehee
Puoc (Australia) Pa

Quechua Ancashino (Ancash Peru) Manam
Quechua Cochabambino (Cochabamba Bolivia) Mana
Quechua Cuzqueño (Cuzco Peru) Manan
Quechua (Andes South America) [forbidding] Ama
Quiché [K'iche] (Guatemala) Ma-
Quiché [K'iche] (Guatemala) Man...taj
Quichua (Ecuador, Argentina) Mana

Rapanui (Easter Island) Ina
[Rarámuri, see Tarahumara]
Rarotongan (South Pacific) Kare
Redondo Tupi-Guarani (South America) Haeñum´
Resígaro (Peru) Nií
Resígaro (Peru) Niíkó
Resígaro (Peru) Niíkámí
Romani [Vlax] [Gypsy] (Europe) Na
Romani [Sofia Erli] (Bulgaria) Na
Romanian (Romania) Nu
Romansch (Switzerland) Na
Rotuman (Pacific Islands) 'Igka'i
Rotuman (Pacific Islands) 'Igke'i
[Runasimi, see Quechua]
[Rundi, see Kirundi]
Russian (Russia) Nyet

Saanich (Vancouver Island Canada) ?ewe
Sacapultec (Guatemala) Taj
Saami [Lappish] (Scandinavia, Russia) Ále
Saami [Davvi Saami] [Lappish](Scandinavia) Ii
Saami [Inari Saami] [Lappish](Scandinavia) Ij
Saami [Skolt Saami] [Lappish](Scandianvia) Ij
Sa'dan Toraja (Indonesia) Tae
Sakai (Sungai Raya Malaysia) Täto to
Sakai (Sungai Raya Malaysia) Tahatna
Sakao (Espiritu Santo Vanuatu) Meré
Sakao (Espiritu Santo Vanuatu) Öhö
Samoan (Samoa) Leai
San Juan Capistrano (California USA) Kai
Sango (Central Africa Republic) Ipo
Saramaccan (Suriname) Nõnö
Saramaccan (Suriname) Ná
Sara-Ngambay (Chad) Waà
Sardinian (Italy) No
Sarnami (Suriname, Holland) Na
Sasak (Indonesia) Nde
Savonian (Ylä-Savo Finland) Ee
Scots (Scotland) Naw
Scots (Scotland) Nae
Scots [Ulster Scots] (Northern Ireland) Na
Sema (India) Mo
Sepedi (South Africa) Aowa
Serbian (Bosnia, Yugoslavia) Ne
Seri (Mexico) Saate
Serrano (California United States) Nou
Seselwa [Seychelles Creole] (Seychelles) Non
Sesotho (Lesotho, South Africa) Tjhe
Sesotho (Lesotho, South Africa) Tjhee
Sesotho (Lesotho, South Africa) Aikona
Setswana (Botswana, South Africa) Nyaa
Setu (Estonia) Õiõ
Sherpa [Helambu] (Nepal, Tibet) Ahha
Sherpa [Helambu] (Nepal, Tibet) Mecheye
Sherpa [Solu] (Nepal, Tibet) Me sheki
Shimasiwa (Comoros) Uh uh
Shikaviyam (California United States) Gè
Shina (India, Central Asia) Neh
Shipibo (Peru) Icáma
Shona (Zimbabwe) Aiwa
Shona (Zimbabwe) Kwete
Shoshoni (United States) Kai
Shuar (Ecuador, Peru) Atsa
Sicilian (Sicily Italy) Nuddu
Sicilian (Sicily Italy) Nessunu
Silozi (Zambia) Baatili
Sindhi (Pakistan) Na
Sindhi (Pakistan) Ma
Sinhalese (Sri Lanka) Natha
Sipacapa (Guatemala) Qa
Siswati [Swazi] (Swaziland) Ha
Slovak (Slovakia) Nie
Slovenian (Slovenia) Ne
Solresol (old; international) Do
Somali (East Africa) Maya
Soninke (Mali, Senegal) Ayi
Sorbian (eastern Germany) Ne
Spanish (Spain, America) No
Spokane (United States) Tá
Sranan (Suriname) Nono
Sundanese [Basa Sunda] (Indonesia) Heunteu
Sundanese [Basa Sunda] (Indonesia) Sanes
Sundanese [Basa Sunda] (Indonesia) [don't] Ulah
Sursilvan (Switzerland) Na
Swabian (Central Europe) Noe
[Swahili, see Kiswahili]
[Swazi, see Siswati]
Swedish (Sweden, Finland) Nej

Tachi Yokuts (Tulare Lake California USA) Ohom
Tagalog (Philippines) [to elder] Hindi po
Tagalog (Philippines) [same age/younger] Hindi
Tahitian (Tahiti) Aita
Taino (Caribbean, Florida USA) U'a
Taino (Caribbean, Florida USA) [emphatic] Wu'a
Tajik (Tajikstan) Ne
Taki-taki (French Guyana) Nono
Tamashek (West Africa) Kala-kala
Tamil (India, Southeast Asia) Illai
Tamil (India, Southeast Asia) Venda
Tapiete (Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay) Baety
Tarahumara [Rarámuri] (Mexico) Ké
Tarahumara [Rarámuri] (Mexico) Que
Tarahumara [Rarámuri] (Mexico) Quetasi
Tarahumara [Rarámuri] (Mexico) Tásirapé
Tarahumara [Rarámuri] (Mexico) Tasi
Tarahumara [Rarámuri] (Mexico) Tarapé
[Tarasco, see Phorhepecha]
Tarawan (Oceania) Akêa
Tashkorghani (Central Asia) Nay
Tatar (Russia) Yuk
Tay (Vietnam) Boomi
Tehuelche (Argentina) Gom
Telefol (Papua New Guinea) Umbae
Telefol (Papua New Guinea) Bae
Telugu (India) Kaddu
Telugu (India) Ledu
Tepehua (Mexico) Maitague
Tetum (East Timor) Lae
Tetum (East Timor) [before a verb] La
[Teuso, see Icetot]
Thai (Thailand) Mai
Thai (Thailand) Maidai
Thai (Thailand) Maichai
Thai (Thailand) Maioua
Thangmi [Thami] (Himalayas) Ma-ja
Tibetan (Tibet, China) Yo
Tibetan (Tibet, China) Marey
Tibetan (Tibet, China) Meyin
Tigre (Ethiopia) La'
Tigre (Ethiopia) [emphatic] Lala'
Tigrinya (Ethiopia) Ay-[+verb root]-n
Tjalkadjara (Australia) Tailpa
Tlahuica [Ocuilteco] (Mexico) T'akwha
Tlingit (Canada) Klek
Tlingit (Southeastern Alaska) Tleix
Tojolabal (Chiapas Mexico) Miyuc
Tojolabal (Chiapas Mexico) Mi
Tok Pisin (Papua New Guinea) Nogat
Tongan (Tonga Pacific Islands) 'Ikai
Tongva (USA) Hí-ekh
[Torres Strait Broken, see Yumpla Tok]
Totonac (Veracruz Mexico) Nichuna
Trobes Tokples (Trobriand Papua N. Guinea) Gala
Tsafiqui (Ecuador) Te
[Tsalagi, see Cherokee]
Tschiluba (Kasai Occidental Region, Zaire) To
Tseshaht (British Columbia Canada) Wik
Tübatulabal (California United States) Haic
Tukang Besi (Indonesia) Mbe'ae
Tulamni Yokuts (Buena Vista Lake Cal. USA) Anhan
Tulu (India) Ijji
Tulu (India) Iddi
Tupi [Nheengatu] (Brazil) Mbaa
Tupi [Tembé Tenetéhar] (Amazon Brazil) Naani
Tupi [Tembé Tenetéhar] (Brazil) [emphatic) Naanikwaw
Tupi [Tembé Tenetéhar] (Brazil) [by women] Naani-mia
Turkish (Turkey, Northern Cyprus) Hayir
Turkmen (Turkmenistan) Yok
Tuvan (Russia) Chok
Twi (Ghana) Daabí
Tzeltal (Chiapas Mexico) Ju'uk
Tzeltal (Chiapas Mexico) [there isn't] Ma'yuk
Tzotzil (Chiapas Mexico) I'i
Tzotzil (Chiapas Mexico) Mo'oj
Tzotzil (Chiapas Mexico)[before consonant] Mu
Tzotzil (Chiapas Mexico)[before vowel] Muc
Tzutujil (Mexico) Ma
Tzutujil (Mexico) Maan

Udmurt (Russia) Övöl
Ukrainian (Ukraine) Ni
Ulcha (Russia) Ana
Urdu (Pakistan, India, Central Asia) Nahin
Urdu (Pakistan, India, Central Asia) NehiiN
Urubu (Brazil) Anin
Uspantec (Guatemala) Ta'
Ute (Colorado and Utah USA) Kach
Ute (Colorado and Utah USA) Ka-
Uyghur (Central Asia) Jyok
Uyghur (Central Asia) Yaq
Uzbek (Uzbekistan, Afghanistan) Yuk
Uzbek (Uzbekistan, Afghanistan) Yöq

Valencian (Spain) No
Veps (Russia) Ei
Vietnamese (Vietnam) Không
Vietnamese (Vietnam) Thua không
Villamontes Tupi-Guarani (Bolivia) Awigi
Visayan [Cebuano] (Philippines) Dili
Visayan [old Cebuano] (Philippines) [old] Tifale
[Vlaams, see Dutch (Belgium)]
[Vogul, see Mansi]
Votic (Russia) Ei
Votic (Russia) EB
Votic (Russia) Ep

Wagiman (Australia) Wihya
Waigali (India) Mi
Wakhi (Central Asia) Neis
Wali [Wa] (Northern Ghana) Aye
Waljen (Australia) Wandi
Walpiri (Australia) [literally: 'nothing'] Lawa
Walpiri (Australia) [in negative commands] Walku
Wangaaybuwan-ngiyambaa (Australia) Wangaay
Wangaaybuwan-ngiyambaa (Australia) Wayil
Washo (California United States) Ès
Waura (Brazil) A
Waura (Brazil) Aitsa
Wayilwan (Australia) Wayil
Wechihit Yokuts (Sanger California USA) Ohòm
Welsh (Wales) Na
Welsh (Wales) [no I didn't] Naddo
Welsh (Wales) [no I didn't] Nage
Welsh (Wales) [no I don't want] Nagoes
Welsh (Wales) [no I am not] Nac ydw
Wik-mungkan (Australia) Ya'a
Winnemem Wintu (California United States) El-eh-oh
Wintu (California United States) Min
Wintu (California United States) Mina
Wiradjuri (Australia) Wirraay
Wiyot (California United States) Kia
Wo'lasi Yokuts [Wo'ladji] (Calif. USA) Ohom
Wolof (West Africa) Deedeet
Wükchamni Yokuts (Kaweah River Calif. USA) K'amu

/Xam (South Africa) |na
//Xegwi (South Africa) K'au
//Xegwi (South Africa) K'auki
Xerente (Brazil) Anrê
Xetá (Brazil) Ñiá
Xhosa (South Africa) Hayi

Yamagata (Japan) Nne
Yao (Africa) Ngava
Yaqui (Mexico, United States) 'É'e
Yawdanchi Yokuts (foothills Californ. USA) K'amu
Yawelmani Yokuts (Kern River Calif. USA) Ohom
Yiddish (Europe) Nit
Yiddish (Europe) Neyn
Yindjibarndi (Australia) Mita
Yokuts [Buena Vista] (foothills Calif.) Anhan
Yokuts [Poso Creek] (foothills Calif. USA) K'ami
Yokuts [Tule] (foothills California USA) K'amu
Yokuts [Kings River] (foothills Calif.) K'amu
Yokuts (north valley California USA) Ohom
Yolngu Matha (Australia) Yaka
Yoruba (Benin, Nigeria) Rara
Yoruba (Benin, Nigeria) Oti
Yoruba (Benin, Nigeria) Béè kó
Yucatec Maya (Yucatán Mexico) Ma'
Yucatec Maya (Yucatán Mexico) Maa
Yugur [Western Yugur] (Gansu China) Yahq
Yuki (California United States) Tan
Yuki (California United States) Mi-tang-keh
Yumpla Tok (Torres Strait Australia) No
Yupik (Alaska USA) Ganga

Zapotec (Oaxaca Mexico) Que
Zapotec (Oaxaca Mexico) Ka'á
Zapotec (Oaxaca Mexico) Ko'
Zapotec (Oaxaca Mexico) Akti
Zapotec (Yatzachi Mexico) Bi
Zapotec (Yatzachi Mexico) Bito
Zapotec (Yatzachi Mexico) Cabi
Zapotec (Yatzachi Mexico) Abi
Zapotec (Zoogocho Mexico) Bi
Zapotec (Zoogocho Mexico) Bibi
Zapotec (Zoogocho Mexico) Bitw
Zapotec (Zoogocho Mexico) Cabi
Zhuang (China) Bow
Zhurzhen (China) Ejxe
Zoque (Mexico) Watkáh
Zoque (Mexico) Ja'ne
Zoque (Mexico) N@7tti
Zulu (South Africa, Lesotho) Cha
Zulu (South Africa, Lesotho) Tsha
Zulu (South Africa, Lesotho) Haai ngeko
Zuñi (Southwest United States) 'Ella

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Good! I see we can take it from here now that you finally gave me a clear answer instead of saying things like, "Pot...kettle...black."

If flying in an airplane isn't naturally a safe condition to be in, then something has got to mitigate the risk, correct? Automation can't do that. I know that we look at automation as a black box that knows everything, but it doesn't do much except for simplify the minute tasks that we used to take time to do so we can focus our attention on more important things, like making sure the airplane doesn't run into anything.

It is US, and NOT the computer that helps to mitigate that risk and NOT the automation, you'd have to agree of course? A computer only does what it's told, and if an operator doesn't know what they're doing (though lack of experience), then safety is reduced the risk isn't mitigated, correct?

We still on the same page?

EDIT: Sorry I didn't see your earlier response, either you edited it or I missed it entirely. I could have sworn you said a lot less than that, but I've been wrong before! It's no reason to fly off the handle, you could have simply pointed out where I missed what you said.
 
Er...huh! Your point is lost on me. And there has never before been 250 hour pilots in the right seats of airline cockpits so like it or not....there are no viable statistics available yet to make a solid argument.

Actually, RSG, European airlines like Lufthansa have had ab initio hiring systems since the '60s. They hire guys off the street and send them to Arizona to get their licenses. At about 350 total flight hours they're in the right seat of a 737 tooling about internationally.

Lufthansa's safety record is pretty impressive.
 
I think it is safe to say that this guy doesn't really get it entirely. He tries to make some good points, but in the end it read like it was written by someone that has no in depth knowledge about the aviation industry, and was trying to take a stab at it.

This is the point I always try to make about journalists. They know a little bit about a lot of subjects. If they can't get aviation stories right (something all of us know about) how accurate do you think they are on the war, health insurance, the economy, etc.?
 
Actually, RSG, European airlines like Lufthansa have had ab initio hiring systems since the '60s. They hire guys off the street and send them to Arizona to get their licenses. At about 350 total flight hours they're in the right seat of a 737 tooling about internationally.

Lufthansa's safety record is pretty impressive.

So you're saying you want 350 hour pilots sitting next to you in the 737 with the current United States system of training?

Because that's what you should assert if the record is so good.

The training is NOTHING like it is here. You have to take the system of training into account in this discussion or the conclusions are void.
 
EDIT: Sorry I didn't see your earlier response, either you edited it or I missed it entirely. I could have sworn you said a lot less than that, but I've been wrong before! It's no reason to fly off the handle, you could have simply pointed out where I missed what you said.

Yeah but it wouldn't have been nearly as colorful of a response then the word "no" in every known language and dialect now would it. You have to admit, if you can get past your irritation with me, it was kind of funny...:p

Continuing on...I'll divert to my earlier point. This gets talked about as if RJ's were falling out of the sky every day. I don't know this statistic exactly so I'm just add libbing a bit here but what is the difference between a person being 90% safe on a jet with a high time crew flying it or being 89% safe riding on one with a low time crew? Accidents are so rare and unlikely any more that it just completely deflates the necessity of being worried about low-timers really changing the safety dynamic...I just don't understand the reasoning behind getting all up in arms about this. Air travel is still the safest way to go...Hell..depending on the neighborhood it's safer then walking! And the introduction of low time pilots into the industry on a large scale basis just isn't going to effect the actual statistics enough to become worried about it.
 
This is the point I always try to make about journalists. They know a little bit about a lot of subjects. If they can't get aviation stories right (something all of us know about) how accurate do you think they are on the war, health insurance, the economy, etc.?


Not very.

But you know what they say, in the land of the blind one eye is king!
 
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