The Tub Stacking Agency (TSA) strikes again!

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Firebird2XC

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All hail the mighty TSA!

In yet another sweeping move to make the security check-in process even MORE cumbersome, TSA has mandated that IDs in holders are no longer adequate.

You must now stop, remove your ID from whatever lanyard/carrier device it is in, and present it for inspection.

I fail to understand the real usefulness in this, but whatever...
... another day, another wasted tax dollar for the Thousands Standing Around!

:banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
Yeah, where I work they posted a message on the computer system that you see right when you log in.

They must have gotten it from the TSA somehow.
 
I believe it. They made me take my driver's license out of my little card holder last night at ATL. The toothpaste nazis took my toothpaste the other day at SFO as well.
 
SkyCougar said:
I believe it. They made me take my driver's license out of my little card holder last night at ATL. The toothpaste nazis took my toothpaste the other day at SFO as well.
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Let's all take a moment. . .

No sarcasm here. The TSA has a tough job. That tube of toothpaste was taken away because it's a potential "part A" of something that could blow up the airplane you are trusting your life with. I can see why they would want a closer look at an ID badge. A pocket lanyard or wallet sleeve would be an excellent way for someone of lesser scruples (or "higher calling") to bluff their way through security for malicious reasons.

Between an extra minute or two in the security line or giving Osama's hench-men a chance, I'll be patient. . .
 
I checked ID's every once in a while at Comair. As long as I saw your complete name, and expiration date, I didnt give a crap what was containing said license.

Do crews now have to unclip the ID card from the lanyard its on? If so, that is total complete BS. I'd start swinging that bad boy around and rope up some rogue TSA agents.:D
 
Cheechako said:
Let's all take a moment. . .

No sarcasm here. The TSA has a tough job. That tube of toothpaste was taken away because it's a potential "part A" of something that could blow up the airplane you are trusting your life with. I can see why they would want a closer look at an ID badge. A pocket lanyard or wallet sleeve would be an excellent way for someone of lesser scruples (or "higher calling") to bluff their way through security for malicious reasons.

Between an extra minute or two in the security line or giving Osama's hench-men a chance, I'll be patient. . .
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Ok, whatever...I guess that the swiss army tool knife that my son forgot that he had in his wallet that was x-rayed in 3 airports before it was detected in little ole Cairns, Australia, would not be as harmful as my Aquafresh.

I have no problem with letting them take my toothpaste, but I do have a problem with their inconsistency, and I do have a problem when they cop an attitude with me, when I clearly do not have an attitude with them! I think that is what bothers most people about the TSA.
 
Cheechako said:
Let's all take a moment. . .

No sarcasm here. The TSA has a tough job. That tube of toothpaste was taken away because it's a potential "part A" of something that could blow up the airplane you are trusting your life with. I can see why they would want a closer look at an ID badge. A pocket lanyard or wallet sleeve would be an excellent way for someone of lesser scruples (or "higher calling") to bluff their way through security for malicious reasons.

Between an extra minute or two in the security line or giving Osama's hench-men a chance, I'll be patient. . .
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Oh how quaint. This one still believes the TSA would have any chance of stopping even the most retarded terrorist.

The only thing that makes you safe is the odds are on your side the bomb will be on someone else's plane. And thankfully the media has done a great job of advertising that fact, while the TSA has done nothing to improve.
 
I had a "friend" in college who had a fake ID, he kept it in his pouch in his/her wallet under the plastic protection layer. It worked well (so I hear). Not that this friend would ever do anything illegal with it.
 
Cheechako said:
Let's all take a moment. . .

No sarcasm here. The TSA has a tough job. That tube of toothpaste was taken away because it's a potential "part A" of something that could blow up the airplane you are trusting your life with. I can see why they would want a closer look at an ID badge. A pocket lanyard or wallet sleeve would be an excellent way for someone of lesser scruples (or "higher calling") to bluff their way through security for malicious reasons.

Between an extra minute or two in the security line or giving Osama's hench-men a chance, I'll be patient. . .
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Anybody who took the time to research and manufacture a fake ID probably stole one to use as a template. Odds are, they'd copy both sides, or just alter the original. Personal accountability for secure items like ID badges are the best way to prevent counterfeiting. I treat my ID badge with the same concern for security as I would a weapon.

Unless the alteration is completely sophomoric and substandard, it'd probably be indistinguishable, as far as a cursory visual inspection was concerned.

The security effort provided by everyone in the air travel process taking the time to keep an eye peeled for something out of place is far more effective than some drooling government lackey looking you over.
 
Latest and greatest: As I was going through the TSA wicket the other day, I glanced over at the "confiscated" bin. There on top was a beautiful, brand new SNOWGLOBE. Obviously meant for someone as a Christmas present.

Apparently the TSA determined there was more than 3 oz. of fluid in it and grabbed it. I'm pretty sure its decorating some TSA weenie's house this holiday season.
 
Velocipede said:
Latest and greatest: As I was going through the TSA wicket the other day, I glanced over at the "confiscated" bin. There on top was a beautiful, brand new SNOWGLOBE. Obviously meant for someone as a Christmas present.

Apparently the TSA determined there was more than 3 oz. of fluid in it and grabbed it. I'm pretty sure its decorating some TSA weenie's house this holiday season.
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Yup! My daughter had her Universal Studios snowglobe confiscated at TPA this summer. They let me keep the decorative pepper jar I bought since they couldn't figure out just how much liquid was contained in it -- LOL. When they saw the snow globe, they removed it. When I started to question it politely they very curtly told me, "you got away with the pepper jar, you want that taken too?" I decided it wasn't worth it and kept my mouth shut. I would have had the snow globe in the checked luggage, but my daughter never told me she bought it! :rolleyes: "Best" part was the TSA agent who was a bitch and told me my daughter was out of line and not very well behaved since she was upset. It took all my patience to not escalate the situation. I simply told her, "you do your job, I'll worry about my snotty teenager!" :D
 
WildCougar said:
Yup! My daughter had her Universal Studios snowglobe confiscated at TPA this summer. They let me keep the decorative pepper jar I bought since they couldn't figure out just how much liquid was contained in it -- LOL. When they saw the snow globe, they removed it. When I started to question it politely they very curtly told me, "you got away with the pepper jar, you want that taken too?" I decided it wasn't worth it and kept my mouth shut. I would have had the snow globe in the checked luggage, but my daughter never told me she bought it! :rolleyes: "Best" part was the TSA agent who was a bitch and told me my daughter was out of line and not very well behaved since she was upset. It took all my patience to not escalate the situation. I simply told her, "you do your job, I'll worry about my snotty teenager!" :D
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Way too much inconsistency, too many simple simon's working, and way too much freaking poor attitudes. Two weeks ago I was jumpseating out of St. Croix... in uniform mind you.... and the "TSA" agents confiscated toothpaste, shampoo, cologne, etc because I didn't have it in a plastic bag. Now my understanding is that when I travel in uniform I am allowed to carry these items through security. When I politely questioned their right to confiscate my personal belongings they actually called the airport police and threatened to have me detained. Quite unprofessional and inexcusable if you ask me..... in fact just pathetic.
 
"Tub Stacking Agency"....:D That's funny stuff, right there.

I'm so glad I only deal with them a few times a year.
 
SteveC said:
"Tub Stacking Agency"....:D That's funny stuff, right there.
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I know, huh Steve? :D I hadn't heard that one before, but it's hilarious!

Once again, I have no problem following rules (well sometimes I do) but it's the attitudes I don't dig....and I almost always walk through the line with a smile on my face and a joke or two, so there is no need for the attitudes that I occasionally encounter.
 
belliott said:
Way too much inconsistency, too many simple simon's working, and way too much freaking poor attitudes. Two weeks ago I was jumpseating out of St. Croix... in uniform mind you.... and the "TSA" agents confiscated toothpaste, shampoo, cologne, etc because I didn't have it in a plastic bag. Now my understanding is that when I travel in uniform I am allowed to carry these items through security. When I politely questioned their right to confiscate my personal belongings they actually called the airport police and threatened to have me detained. Quite unprofessional and inexcusable if you ask me..... in fact just pathetic.
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If you are traveling IN UNIFORM with a crew badge they CANNOT take your things. I would have politely asked them "where do I need to wait for the police- I need to turn you in for not doing your job right".
 
higney85 said:
If you are traveling IN UNIFORM with a crew badge they CANNOT take your things. I would have politely asked them "where do I need to wait for the police- I need to turn you in for not doing your job right".
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It was my first time jumpseating ever.... call it nerves or whatever you like... I didn't want to create a scene.... next time will be a different story for sure. I have filed a complaint since then but have not heard back anything. People I work with have just told me that people in the caribbean just operate differently than people elsewhere but that still doesn't excuse the supposed standardized TSA.
 
higney85 said:
If you are traveling IN UNIFORM with a crew badge they CANNOT take your things. I would have politely asked them "where do I need to wait for the police- I need to turn you in for not doing your job right".
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So, if I'm just wearing my crew badge and normal clothes they can take my stuff? I haven't jumpseated while not in uniform so I did not know that...
 
higney85 said:
If you are traveling IN UNIFORM with a crew badge they CANNOT take your things. I would have politely asked them "where do I need to wait for the police- I need to turn you in for not doing your job right".
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I had a TSA weenie stop me and the captain in FLL as we showed up to fly a trip, demanding to see our boarding cards. When we informed him that we were working crewmembers, his only comment was, "No one gets through security without a boarding card." It took a supervisor to set him straight. Apparently they aren't training the front line too well.
 
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