SR22 Fatal Crash in MN.

Asta said:
I wonder why we see so many accidents in Cirruses--if there really are a lot, or if we just pay more attention to them?
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Interesting question, I think it is because the media (for some reason) push this. We dont see the same coverage of other types. In a 4 week period of time in November beechcraft GA had:

** A Be35’s engine failed on takeoff at 300 feet AGL…. (this one was my instructor and the owner)

** A C24R landed gear up….

** An M35’s nose gear collapsed on landing….

** An F33A landed gear up….

** A J35 landed off-airport after engine failure….

** A B60 Duke landed gear up….

** A Twin Beech collided with a Cessna Caravan during taxi….

** A V35 landed gear up….

** A B55 landed gear up….

** A B36TC suffered catastrophic engine failure over mountainous terrain….

** An A36’s engine failed, resulting in an off-airport landing….

** A P35’s nose gear collapsed….

** A 58P’s landing gear collapsed after an in-flight electrical failure….

** A Duchess’ nose gear would not extend for landing….

** An A36’s gear collapsed on landing….

** A B55’s nose gear collapsed on landing….

** A C55 landed gear up….

** A C33 landed gear up….

** A Duchess landed gear up….

** A V35B’s gear collapsed on landing….

** An A36’s engine failed in cruise flight….

** An A36’s brakes caught fire while the Bonanza was being towed….

** An A36’s nose gear collapsed on landing….

** A Duchess’ propeller struck the pavement on landing….

While NOT a fatal crashes, did you see any in the media?
 
Screaming_Emu said:
When I was flying the SR20 I found that there really wasn't anything that was particularly difficult about that plane.
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It isn't really a easy plane. The 172 is a easy plane. The SR-20 has its quirks, like its doesn't climb for crap. All the avionics take time to get used to, for some all the info is overload. It's all how you use it.
 
Just throwing this out there -

SR22s are not certified for spins. The procedure to extricate yourself out of a spin is to pull the chute, and it take a bit of altitude to get the chute inflated.
 
Poopsmith said:
Just throwing this out there -

SR22s are not certified for spins. The procedure to extricate yourself out of a spin is to pull the chute, and it take a bit of altitude to get the chute inflated.
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That doesn't matter when you're low to the ground. It doesn't matter what your in, your not getting out of it.
 
It's been called the new doctor killer, the original being the v-tail Bo, I believe. Some have said that its Cirrus' fault for marketing the plane to non-pilots and tech-heads, which explains why a good number of them are sold to buyers without a PPL. Hard to say, but it sound like the pilot in the MN accident wasn't newly minted.
 
Asta said:
It's been called the new doctor killer, the original being the v-tail Bo, I believe. Some have said that its Cirrus' fault for marketing the plane to non-pilots and tech-heads, which explains why a good number of them are sold to buyers without a PPL. Hard to say, but it sound like the pilot in the MN accident wasn't newly minted.
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According to the FAA's website the DOI on his ASEL PP w/Ins was issued 7/2006 so he must have just gotten his instrument or that was a complete reissue.
 
WalterSobchak said:
According to the FAA's website the DOI on his ASEL PP w/Ins was issued 7/2006 so he must have just gotten his instrument or that was a complete reissue.
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Hmm, maybe. My DOI show 8/2007, since that was the issue date for my new plastic ticket, tho I got my PPL in 1996.
 
Asta said:
It's been called the new doctor killer, the original being the v-tail Bo, I believe. Some have said that its Cirrus' fault for marketing the plane to non-pilots and tech-heads, which explains why a good number of them are sold to buyers without a PPL. Hard to say, but it sound like the pilot in the MN accident wasn't newly minted.
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No its just that we hear about them all the time because the media thinks no one should die because it has a chute. Its all a bunch of crap.
 
skidz said:
makes me wonder how useful this parachute really is. :confused:
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remember that crappy movie 'the flying walendas' -- about a family that did circus trapeze without a net because they thought the net made you relax and when you relax you get careless and when you get careless you die.

kind of like that.
 
skidz said:
makes me wonder how useful this parachute really is. :confused:
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It extremly usefull. Its saved a few lives so its already proven its worth. The problem is a few pilots and media folk who think its taking the place of training and the number one rule of flying the airplane.
I can tell you first hand that pulling that chute was the last thing on my mind, we were trained to use it only as a last resort.
 
Champcar said:
I can tell you first hand that pulling that chute was the last thing on my mind, we were trained to use it only as a last resort.
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:yeahthat: and I have had one minor emergancy and while I will admit the chute crossed my mind, but I also knew to fly the plane first, as it was still flying.

Also, for the SR20 1000 AGL is what is needed to pull the chute and operate as designed. 2000 AGL is better
 
Champcar said:
It isn't really a easy plane. The 172 is a easy plane. The SR-20 has its quirks, like its doesn't climb for crap. All the avionics take time to get used to, for some all the info is overload. It's all how you use it.
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Eh, neither of those are that hard if you do some good old fashioned book learning. But as you mentioned that's just my opinion.
 
Champcar said:
It isn't really a easy plane. The 172 is a easy plane. The SR-20 has its quirks, like its doesn't climb for crap. All the avionics take time to get used to, for some all the info is overload. It's all how you use it.
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NTSB Identification: CHI08FA039
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, November 25, 2007 in Faribault, MN
Aircraft: Cirrus Design Corp. SR22, registration: N482SR
Injuries: 4 Fatal. Not posting this to be a dick. Just to showing that its an SR22. Climb power shouldn't have been a problem. Also the engine checked fine in the post crash test.
 
Someone please educate me. I'm not trying to sound like a you know what, but how do you determine that the engine checked fine in the post crash test when there was really nothing left of the plane?
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
:yeahthat: and I have had one minor emergancy and while I will admit the chute crossed my mind, but I also knew to fly the plane first, as it was still flying.

Also, for the SR20 1000 AGL is what is needed to pull the chute and operate as designed. 2000 AGL is better
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whats the max speed to pull the chute? does that speed differ between the SR22/SR20?
 
WalterSobchak said:
NTSB Identification: CHI08FA039
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, November 25, 2007 in Faribault, MN
Aircraft: Cirrus Design Corp. SR22, registration: N482SR
Injuries: 4 Fatal. Not posting this to be a dick. Just to showing that its an SR22. Climb power shouldn't have been a problem. Also the engine checked fine in the post crash test.
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Check the post that I replied to, he was talking about a SR 20
 
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