Floaters
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Not really.
If you really want to take a stab at your run's longevity, take a look at your airbills. If you have all one bank, that ain't good. If you have 5 banks you'll most likely have a run for awhile. Our weight's all night long dropped over half in the month of November. So I kinda know what's coming. Jet guys have another ace in their whole though. We can take over a couple prop runs and not miss a deadline.
There are so many dynamics to the runs. I tried to get us more info from Airline Engineering on the nature of their decisions. It turned into the Airline Report Card which basically just lists the route numbers that were late out of Columbus. Not exactly my idea oh Wells.
If you really want to take a stab at your run's longevity, take a look at your airbills. If you have all one bank, that ain't good. If you have 5 banks you'll most likely have a run for awhile. Our weight's all night long dropped over half in the month of November. So I kinda know what's coming. Jet guys have another ace in their whole though. We can take over a couple prop runs and not miss a deadline.
There are so many dynamics to the runs. I tried to get us more info from Airline Engineering on the nature of their decisions. It turned into the Airline Report Card which basically just lists the route numbers that were late out of Columbus. Not exactly my idea oh Wells.
Hmm...
Yeah, the guys who work at BDL have been forecasting doom and gloom with our BOA work. They pretty accurately predicted the demise of 168. They *think* my run is okay, but you really never know. If the BOA work out of Hartford goes away, a jet could pretty easily fill the rest of my run.
Yeah, the guys who work at BDL have been forecasting doom and gloom with our BOA work. They pretty accurately predicted the demise of 168. They *think* my run is okay, but you really never know. If the BOA work out of Hartford goes away, a jet could pretty easily fill the rest of my run.
I wouldn't worry about it too much Ian. Nothing you can really do about it anyways. And if your run does get slashed you'll become a floater out of BDL. Something you've already considered.
ljg
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Mike, that's all valid information...thanks.
I'll wait until I have 2000TT to bid on a jet before I consider a possible floater spot in the props.
Scott had to wait another 3 months, but it's nice that he got himself a Midway floater spot. Funny how things always seem to work out.
I'll wait until I have 2000TT to bid on a jet before I consider a possible floater spot in the props.
Scott had to wait another 3 months, but it's nice that he got himself a Midway floater spot. Funny how things always seem to work out.
If the guys are old they are Lear Captain floaters.
Young ones with Airnet polos are Lear SICs waiting to do IOE or possibly prop children waiting on 'Jo and/or Van training.
Young ones with street clothes are IPTP peeps.
For the most part LCK prop floaters are always flying so they don't really hang out much.
Last summer there was at any one time 10-15 guys sitting in the kitchen and they all were waiting for runs. Oh how times have changed.
Gotcha...just trying to figure out if I'm going to need a crash pad in the LCK area if I end up getting a "floater" spot down there.
Sounds like I can probably skip it with all the flying.
-mini
Oh no. If you aren't currently living in Columbus you'll definetly need a crash pad. You won't fly all 8 days. You can probably chance it for a few weeks but eventually you'll need to spend a few nights in Columbus.
Honestly though my best advice, get through training first. I've talked to too many guys making plans and figuring out what they are going to do after training and they ended up never having to worry about it since they never got out of IPTP. Don't EVER assume you have a job until you are assigned a run.
CK
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So flying through tstroms is all part of the job? Is getting thoes boxes there that much quicker really worth risking your life?
Queboat
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all freight dogs should ask themselves this questions.
Interesting. I thought the idea of "floating" was that you show up at your base and go somewhere away from the base for 8 days. Was that just a marketing tactic used by recruiting?
As for training...don't worry, I'm studying pretty hard for it. I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but at the same time, if I get assigned a 5 day run in Omaha...passing training isn't really going to matter. I think that's something the company could do better with new hires.
-mini
Don't go there.
Really. Don't.
It's been a long day so this may be a little rough but deal... Seriously what happens if you have to cover a run out of LCK? Where do you think you'll stay? Second the amount of choices you'll have if you pass training is ten times the amount most of us had. Trying waiting for 3 months and then getting assigned someplace you dread. What do you want them to do? It's an outstation based airline. And things could be alot worse then getting assigned a 5 day run out of training. Seriously your b*itching is getting tiring and you haven't even touched an airplane yet.
CK
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Ha! Yes sir, I am so very, very sorry. The question was not directed at you anyway, unless you consider flying through thunderstorms all a part of the job. Be it hauling boxes, executives or the general public.
I have a lot of respect for freight pilots. You guys have a very tough job made worse by long/bad hours for little money in relatively poorly equipped airplanes. What I do not respect is the attitude I see from a few pilots (and not only freight pilots!) that they have to get the job done no mater what. Hopefully you agree with me on that.
Alex.
I do consider it part of my job to fly through thunderstorms.
Do you have any idea how much money I make, how poorly equipped my plane is and how bad my hours are?
A plane doesn't have to have all glass to be well equipped. Sadly with the way your young career is shaping up you'll probably never fly a /W jet.
Oh wells. Don't pass judgement on things you haven't experienced and on people you don't know.
Just slow up on the sterotypes. You'd be surprised how nice freight flying is compared to regionals.
CK
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That sucks. Many great pilots have been lost to mother nature, and many more will. I really do hope you are not one of them. I have known you for a long time, ever since your Jr year at Riddle, you may not respect me, but I do respect you.
You are taking things very personal tonight. I did not direct any of that to you. Is it not a well known fact that most freight pilots fly odd hours, in what even they say are megarly equipped planes? Maybe it is just a sterotype that I have taken too literally. But according to APC, you make around 30K a year, probally a little more. To me, that is not a lot for flying a jet.
In that case, what would a poorly equipped Learjet have in it? In my opinion, any aircraft that is reguarly flown hard IFR should be /G to be considered well equipped. I personally do not think it is sad that I will never fly a /W jet. Honestly I'd be happy never flying a jet.
I never once in this thread passed any judgement on any person or anything I have not experienced. I have quite a bit of weather flying, although I have never flown directly through a thunderstorm. I spend most of my time in the summer avoiding them!
I never compared it to the regionals. I am not a fan of flying for the regionals either.
Good night,
Alex.
Sorry Alex.
I don't mean to jump on you. It's just frustrating when people label us. And whether you ment to or not I took it that way. I won't slap my paycheck up her but it isn't 30k a year. I think if you had some more time in hard IFR with planes that don't have moving maps you'd see that those really aren't needed. The reason I brought up regionals is I want to point out that there are MANY other flying oppurtunities out there besides part 121 regional flying, as you know very well.
Good night,
Mike
I don't mean to jump on you. It's just frustrating when people label us. And whether you ment to or not I took it that way. I won't slap my paycheck up her but it isn't 30k a year. I think if you had some more time in hard IFR with planes that don't have moving maps you'd see that those really aren't needed. The reason I brought up regionals is I want to point out that there are MANY other flying oppurtunities out there besides part 121 regional flying, as you know very well.
Good night,
Mike
ljg
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Can you clarify, 'cause I'm a little 'slow? Are you saying outright that once you complete IPTP (and then possibly SIC), that you're going to refuse a run assignment if you don't like it? Are you SERIOUS? You're seriously saying that publicly? Dude...really?
Tell me what you were really saying, because that kind of attitude is crappy. A lot of people ahead of you made huge sacrifices to fly for Airnet because they really wanted to be here. I hope you do, but my interpretation from reading your posts is that you're here because you're here. Question #1 during initial 2-minute phone interview: "Are you willing to relocate?" Please don't bring that kind of mentality out on the line. You will be swallowed up. Hope I'm wrong about what you mean.
Secondly, Washka is not a used car salesman. His department has to find qualified people to fill classes, but ask the man a direct question and you'll get a direct answer. If you had any unanswered questions prior to coming into training, that's your fault mini. There's lots of guys on JC who would help you out too. Don't be ignorant and then blame the company.
...Back to studying'
ljg
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Priority guys told me they have a 45 minute timeframe from customer callup to aircraft airborne. They are based just outside of Akron, OH. You obviously know they have Caravans and 310's, I don't know if they have anything else. The 142 priority guy said he made decent money, flew to many different places, and had some sort of training agreement. He had 1500 hours of van time and not much multi. I also was under the impression that they fly alot more than we do (91 legs out of and back to OH frequently). Does anybody else have any info on Priority?