I know that when applying to the airlines they ask about checkride failures. Most of the time they are ok with a few as long as you learn something from each failure and explain how you learn something from it. My question is how many failures is to many though. Also, does it matter if its seperate failure or mutiple failures for the same ride. At the momment im having promblems passing my muti ride. but have learn something from each of my failures already. any adivce would be helpful
Failed Checkrides
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dc3flyer
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First of all, Welcome aboard!!!!!!!
Then, I don't think it will matter too much. You probably still have a lot of learning that will take place before making it to the airlines. The people interviewing you know that even pilots are human.
What is it that you are having problems with? Chances are good that you could get some good advice around here if you ask.
Then, I don't think it will matter too much. You probably still have a lot of learning that will take place before making it to the airlines. The people interviewing you know that even pilots are human.
What is it that you are having problems with? Chances are good that you could get some good advice around here if you ask.
thanks for the input. The promblem i have is not flying or with any certain up air work. I tend to rush when things go bad. i-e an engine failures. I can do it just fine on the ILS approach or in the upper air work. However when i got it in the pattern i was not appecting it and i rushed and it wast good by any means. I understand most failures dont happen when expected. but i cant seem to find out how not to rush in the certain role or if there is anything i can do. The DE is happy and says i can fly saftely, however in emeregnecy conditions he doest feel im safe enough beacuse i rush. i know i can do everything right as long as i dont rush. Any help would be helpful at this point. Like i have said before each failure i have learn a lot from but just gets depressing beacuse i cant to get it worked out
Clocks
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I agree rushing through the items is bad. But it's easy to fix.
When my students tried to blow through it, I told them you could take a full second to do each item though and still be giving yourself plenty of time, even in the pattern. Pitch for the horizon, apply rudder and aileron, and start smoothly applying pressure on the yoke to get your airspeed to blue line. Those steps should have your full attention and take just a few seconds.
Next mixtures, props, throttles full forward, flaps up, gear up, identify, verify, feather the dead engine, mixture to cutoff. Thats 9 items in 9 seconds, which feels painfully slow when you're just speaking it (at least to me). But if you lose an engine I think it's important to dedicate time to running those items correctly, especially when you're not that familiar with the aircraft. It also gives you time to pay attention to your pitch attitude and airspeed. Anyways I always felt that speed was a good place to start. It's certainly better than when someone tries to do it faster than they could even say it.
Remember that while an engine failure is a dangerous situation in a twin, you aren't as time limited (depending on the density altitude) as you are in a single engine airplane. If you did your preflight planning, you should know if you'll hold your altitude or not. So what if your downwind extends an extra 1/4 mile?...that beats the hell out of feathering the wrong engine and trying to do a power-off 180.
When my students tried to blow through it, I told them you could take a full second to do each item though and still be giving yourself plenty of time, even in the pattern. Pitch for the horizon, apply rudder and aileron, and start smoothly applying pressure on the yoke to get your airspeed to blue line. Those steps should have your full attention and take just a few seconds.
Next mixtures, props, throttles full forward, flaps up, gear up, identify, verify, feather the dead engine, mixture to cutoff. Thats 9 items in 9 seconds, which feels painfully slow when you're just speaking it (at least to me). But if you lose an engine I think it's important to dedicate time to running those items correctly, especially when you're not that familiar with the aircraft. It also gives you time to pay attention to your pitch attitude and airspeed. Anyways I always felt that speed was a good place to start. It's certainly better than when someone tries to do it faster than they could even say it.
Remember that while an engine failure is a dangerous situation in a twin, you aren't as time limited (depending on the density altitude) as you are in a single engine airplane. If you did your preflight planning, you should know if you'll hold your altitude or not. So what if your downwind extends an extra 1/4 mile?...that beats the hell out of feathering the wrong engine and trying to do a power-off 180.
taseal
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i failed private 3 times 
but hey, i'm much better now 
1 - ground manuevers (I entered downwind, instead of upwind, or was it the other way around? lol)
2 - landing
3 - landing
passed! lol
i learned that you should not do a checkride if you haven't flown in a month. I also learned that each time you fail, you lose more morale, so it gets harder
but hey, i'm much better now 1 - ground manuevers (I entered downwind, instead of upwind, or was it the other way around? lol)
2 - landing
3 - landing
passed! lol
i learned that you should not do a checkride if you haven't flown in a month. I also learned that each time you fail, you lose more morale, so it gets harder
taseal
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Well, congrats on finally passing!
tell me about it, it was the best feeling haha...
if I learned something, it was that if you are not calm during the exam, you will fail. the key is being calm and knowing that you know what you are doing. if you don't trust yourself, what are you doing up there anyways?
I know my IFR will be diff, and I will pass it in one go. its almost here too. I have to say how much jetcareers helped seek out some questions my newer CFIIs didn't know
Maybe you should steer your CFIIs here to JC...tell me about it, it was the best feeling haha...
if I learned something, it was that if you are not calm during the exam, you will fail. the key is being calm and knowing that you know what you are doing. if you don't trust yourself, what are you doing up there anyways?
I know my IFR will be diff, and I will pass it in one go. its almost here too. I have to say how much jetcareers helped seek out some questions my newer CFIIs didn't know