General Aviation: An obnoxious pastime.

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I'm an outsider with an "agenda". I moved out of this thread "Runway Incursion at TEB" since I obviously wasn't wanted there. Besides, those people need to figure out how to avoid incursions, so I figured I'd leave them alone.

My general premise is this: your once “romantic” pastime is turning into a pretentious, obnoxious and un-welcomed annoyance for millions of people. Teterboro is but one example.

If anyone would like to continue the debate, please review the Incursion thread and fire when ready.
 
Complaining about airports on a web site designed for pilots? Are you serious?

I'm too tired to get in to a debate about if your points are valid or not. All I know is you're probably going to get zero sympathy around here simply because of who you're talking to. It's like going to the NRA's web site and complaining about guns. It just doesn't work.
 
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Complaining about airports on a web site designed for pilots? Are you serious?

I'm too tired to get in to a debate about if your points are valid or not. All I know is you're probably going to get zero sympathy around here simply because of who you're talking to. It's like going to the NRA's web site and complaining about guns. It just doesn't work.
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Don't feed the trolls. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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"a troll is someone who intentionally posts messages about sensitive topics constructed to cause controversy in an online community such as an online discussion forum or USENET groups in order to bait users into responding"

"A troll is a person who approaches a board with the specific intention of stirring things up, either as a goal in and of itself or as a means of attacking the board perhaps motivated by opposition to the ethos of the board. For example, a neo-Nazi approaching a Jewish forum with the intention of attacking the members, purely because the neo-Nazi knows the forum to contain Jewish members, will be considered a troll. The general element, that determines whether a malicious user is a troll or not, is the level of indignant emotions present in the person, coupled with the person's history with the forum or group. An indignant user who has had a previous normal relationship with the group is not a troll, even if the user uses methods of attack that are characteristic of a troll attack.
A troll's main goal is usually to arouse anger and frustration among the message board's other participants, and will write whatever it takes to achieve this end. One popular trolling strategy is the practice of Winning by Losing. While the victim is trying to put forward solid and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to infuriate its prey. The troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey. The troll looks like a complete fool, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument. Provoking this anger was the troll's one and only goal from the very beginning."



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Don't feed the Monkeys.

The worm on the hook is dead and unappetizing.

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This guy is calling me a troll:

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Whatever. "Troll" is a new one for me. Debating with like minded people is just pointless. I'm just a guy in Bergen Co. who's sick of the noise, pollution and danger that TEB presents. I thought if I could change one mind, or at least evoke a little sympathy from the people who contibute to the nuisance, that might mean something. After all, you have families too.

I think the whole "troll" thing is a cop out by the way. Do you call anyone who disagrees with you a "troll"? Must be nice to live in denial.
 
If all of those 'corporate snobs' stopped using TEB, guess where'd they go? To those big airports that you make use of? Like delays much? They're bad enough already.

I live literally 1000ft from a busy runway, and I know it isn't your cup of tea, but I don't really notice the planes at all, and I'm under the downwind side.
 
hacknow said:
This guy is calling me a troll:

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Whatever. "Troll" is a new one for me. Debating with like minded people is just pointless. I'm just a guy in Bergen Co. who's sick of the noise, pollution and danger that TEB presents. I thought if I could change one mind, or at least evoke a little sympathy from the people who contibute to the nuisance, that might mean something. After all, you have families too.

I think the whole "troll" thing is a cop out by the way. Do you call anyone who disagrees with you a "troll"? Must be nice to live in denial.
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You're simply in the wrong place. So far, I think people have been very nice to you. If you are just simply wanting to be "beat up," then you are in the right place. However, along the lines of the NRA comparison, I think you would better served by going someplace else other than this forum to place your complaints. Ever see the movie Die Hard III and the sign that they made Bruce Willis' character wear and where they dropped him off in the ghetto? Umm...that's kinda like the situation that you find yourself in here.

Trust me, no good will come of your agenda on this forum. If you love punishment, then, by all means, stick around and keep going at it. You are bound for quite a ride. If you wish to find people with the same ideas and goals in mind, then find someplace else. You are probably the only one on here with such ideas...and...oh yeah, there is like 5,000 members on this forum. Make that, 5,000 type "A" pilot personalities.

Hope this helps. ;) <sarcasm>
 
hacknow said:
I'm an outsider with an "agenda". I moved out of this thread "Runway Incursion at TEB" since I obviously wasn't wanted there. Besides, those people need to figure out how to avoid incursions, so I figured I'd leave them alone.

My general premise is this: your once “romantic” pastime is turning into a pretentious, obnoxious and un-welcomed annoyance for millions of people. Teterboro is but one example.

If anyone would like to continue the debate, please review the Incursion thread and fire when ready.
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Please, get a hobby. Find something else to do with the precious little time you have on Earth. Now, "No soup for you!"

Have a nice day......Oh, and, you shouldn't have moved next to an airport. Not that they're that loud anyway. Take care now.:crazy:
 
hacknow said:
This guy is calling me a troll:

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Whatever. "Troll" is a new one for me. Debating with like minded people is just pointless. I'm just a guy in Bergen Co. who's sick of the noise, pollution and danger that TEB presents. I thought if I could change one mind, or at least evoke a little sympathy from the people who contibute to the nuisance, that might mean something. After all, you have families too.

I think the whole "troll" thing is a cop out by the way. Do you call anyone who disagrees with you a "troll"? Must be nice to live in denial.
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Here's quarter call someone who cares!:panic: You can't come to a forum for pilots and expect to get a sympathetic ear.:rolleyes: For some being a pilot is just a hobby for most it pays the bills and is a way of life. May I ask what your profession is?

But seriously you have issues with TEB airport. You have elected officials that can help you with your issues. I don't think that they'll be sympathetic to your cries either, because the aiport is a money maker and brings business to your area. Now here's the big kicker. Who was there first, the airport or you? I'm guessing the airport.;) With the three big NYC metro airports (JFK, LGA, and EWR) getting jam packed, look for more commercial and coprate flights into the smaller surrounding airports. If you want something done start a petition and get your elected officials involved. Good luck.
 
I pray to God that one day I will be leaving a city council meeting where they discussed airport noise, and see the biggest complainer drive away on his Harley.

I'd follow him home with a dB meter.


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