Headsets at the Regionals?

E6BAV8R

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How many people use headsets on their flights in the regionals, or majors I suppose. I have an Avcomm headset that is alright for now but I am wanting a DC but not necessarily wanting to dish out the money if they don't ever use one at a regional, even though I have another year and a half of instructing. I am thinking it is kind of hit or miss, especially with what a/c you will be flying.

Do they provide headsets, other than the earpiece headset? Or do you full out use your headset that you used at your previous job?
 
Great question. I have been wondering the same thing. Dishing out 1g for those Bose headsets is a lot of money if you will never use them past CFI'ing.
 
Great question. I have been wondering the same thing. Dishing out 1g for those Bose headsets is a lot of money if you will never use them past CFI'ing.

Don't you know of the deal that Bose has going on? I think it is buy 2 aviation headsets and get the 3rd one 10% off or something.

Gee, thanks Bose! :sarcasm:
 
i love the bose from cessna to jet works great, but most airlines provide headsets for all the planes
 
Depends on what you are flying. Most turboprops are noisy enough to require the ear muffs. Most jets are quiet enought that you really don't need much if any noise attenuation. From what I've seen at the regionals, most pilots even in RJs wear the big ol ear muffs, but that's probably cause they don't make enough money to afford a new headset.
 
i love the bose from cessna to jet works great, but most airlines provide headsets for all the planes
SkyWest dosn't. One of they guys in my class was from Eagle and he said that the headsets Eagle provided were crap, and you'd be better off with your own.
 
Bring your own headsets.

If I could go back in time, I'd have purchased high quality headsets off the bat, and then a good set of lightweight ENC's when I got to the jet.

Put me in a loud crowd, game over bro!
 
Bose does offer a discount for CFI's... you just have to ask about it. In addition they offer an incentive program that gives you back like $25 bucks every time you refer "a student" who purchases one.

Also... at XJT... we have three pairs of D&C's onboard that you are welcome to use for your personal use... just make sure there is plenty of alcohol swabs available! :)

Regarding the changeover of the bose from the cessna, to the seminole, to the RJ... It works great for me in all aircraft. I've been using it now for 4 years. Plus... I've got an adapter to use them with my MP3 player and the XM when deadheading... it's soooooo nice to push that little button and make the world go silent all around me! ;)

Bob
 
So, as someone that is still a year and half away from regionals and about to start instructing, do you think it is worth purchasing a decently nice ANC DC headset?

Thanks for the suggestions so far!
 
Depends on what you are flying. Most turboprops are noisy enough to require the ear muffs. Most jets are quiet enought that you really don't need much if any noise attenuation. From what I've seen at the regionals, most pilots even in RJs wear the big ol ear muffs, but that's probably cause they don't make enough money to afford a new headset.

Us RJ Drivers wear the "big ol ear muffs" for a reason. That thing is so damn loud, it isn't funny. The ERJ has the nose of a E-120 on a jet that does twice the speed. If you don't have a quality headset, you will be deaf.

How many people use headsets on their flights in the regionals, or majors I suppose. I have an Avcomm headset that is alright for now but I am wanting a DC but not necessarily wanting to dish out the money if they don't ever use one at a regional, even though I have another year and a half of instructing. I am thinking it is kind of hit or miss, especially with what a/c you will be flying.

Do they provide headsets, other than the earpiece headset? Or do you full out use your headset that you used at your previous job?

Most airlines require headsets below 18,000. This is so that the boom mike picks up your voice for the CVR. At XJT, we provide 3 David Clarks in the aircraft. They're not very good, but they work. If you're cheap, then that's for you. I, personally, don't like sharing germs with 3000 people, so I have my own headset.
 
Thanks for the replies!

Can anyone recommend some good ANC DC headsets? I'm not wanting to spend a ton here, but probably $5-600 at the most.
 
A word of caution.

People coming out of the Brasilia are going to think that the CRJ cockpit is quiet.

But it's louder than death.

If you don't wear noise attenuating headsets, you will develop hearing loss.

Don't try and play stud with something small and cutesy that you saw some DC-9 driver wearing, but make a conscious effort to protect your hearing in that cockpit.

I think it's even louder than a 727, but I'm not sure.
 
These guys are not kidding about hearing loss.

In 1995 I had an audiogram as a standard new-hire F/A interview with Simmons/Eagle. I flew for 7 years, various equipment from ATRs, Saabs, EMBs, to MD-80's and 767s. I never wore earplugs while walking around on the ramp (something we did a LOT at Eagle), I never did anything to protect my hearing.

Fast forward to about 5 months ago. I had another audiogram, to which I took the results of the 1995 audiogram. There is significant hearing loss clearly visable when the two results are compared. And I wasn't even up front, where it's the loudest!

At age 32, I have the hearing of an average 60 year old. As long as I'm careful from here on out, it won't get any worse. But there's no reversing what's been done.

Protect your hearing. Starting NOW.
 
These guys are not kidding about hearing loss.

In 1995 I had an audiogram as a standard new-hire F/A interview with Simmons/Eagle. I flew for 7 years, various equipment from ATRs, Saabs, EMBs, to MD-80's and 767s. I never wore earplugs while walking around on the ramp (something we did a LOT at Eagle), I never did anything to protect my hearing.

Fast forward to about 5 months ago. I had another audiogram, to which I took the results of the 1995 audiogram. There is significant hearing loss clearly visable when the two results are compared. And I wasn't even up front, where it's the loudest!

At age 32, I have the hearing of an average 60 year old. As long as I'm careful from here on out, it won't get any worse. But there's no reversing what's been done.

Protect your hearing. Starting NOW.

Ahh... now that is wanting me to go spend a lot of money on a really nice ENC headset and I am a college student :(

Does anyone have any first-hand experience/comments with the DC H10-13X/XL or H20-10XL? They are about $20 more than each other but if its significantly worth it than that would be fine. Thoughts?
 
I had an ENC DC when I was instructing, and I swear by them. You'll get the same thing as a Bose for a fraction of the price. Plus, WHEN the batteries fail in flight, the passive noise cancelling is much better than the Bose headsets. I would have kept it in the RJ is I could have fit it in my flight case along with the huge binders of charts, company manuals, etc. I've got a Telex 750 right now, and it does okay. I plan on getting the noise cancelling 850 (or something similar) when I can afford it. I picked the 750 up off of eBay for less than $100, so the price was right for a new FO. :)

Noise is realtive. Like Doug said, the guys going from a Brasilia to the RJ will think it's quiet. I think the CRJ is pretty quiet, but I don't fly a 767, which is even quieter.
 
Sitting on the crapper with the vent fan on at home is about 5x as loud as a 767.

Sorry for the bad example, but I didn't know what else to relate the sound to! ;)
 
Sitting on the crapper with the vent fan on at home is about 5x as loud as a 767.

Sorry for the bad example, but I didn't know what else to relate the sound to! ;)

Actually, that's a good example. Everyone can relate to it. :)

I had the 10-30X (I think) ENC. It was the noise cancelling verison of the 10-13.4, whatever that is. Had the 9V battery version with the auto-off switch rather than the "drain the batteries" AA brick.
 
So, as someone that is still a year and half away from regionals and about to start instructing, do you think it is worth purchasing a decently nice ANC DC headset?

Thanks for the suggestions so far!

With a year and a half away and you are just starting to instruct, I would shell out the 1G for the bose or DC ENC. If you are at good sized flight school, you will be in the airplane a lot more than you will be on the ground so you should go all out. Plus a year and a half.....you will wear that thing more in that year and a half than most people do in 5 or 10 years. However, this is also not taking into account:
1.) What you get payed
2.) How much you fly which then leads to point 1
3.) What other kinds of expenses you have (i.e. Wife, Children, Car, House, etc.)

So if you can afford it...go for it, if you are worried about the money stick with a standard DC. I bought my DC right after I finished my private 6 years ago and she is still in fine shape and even though it is not "AS NICE" as a ENC, if you don't use a ENC for a while, you will forget about it and your standard headset will be just fine.
 
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