Great Job ExpressJet

CaptBill

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I purchased five round trip tickets on Expressjet from Boise to San Diego recently. We made the trip to San Diego a few days ago and it was wonderful. Great service - Nice interior - Nice crewmwmbers - and ON TIME. We are looking forward to the trip back next week.

Congratulations to ExpressJet on a great job and I sincerely hope they are successful with their new service.

BTW, It was great going to the airport not having to worry about how many seats were or weren't available, and if my jeans would meet their "non-rev" standards. Prices were very reasonable and the peace of mind of not flying standby was wonderful.
 
Hey calcapt...

That's so very nice to hear... I've heard from a lot of CAL guys they think we screwed up with CAL regarding our business plan. So it certainly is nice to hear your comments.

As always... we really do hope it continues to work. Who knows for certain. But for now... loads are up beyond management's... and quite frankly... the pilot group's expectations as well.

We'll see what happens during the slow season in the fall... but... if we keep pleasing customers like yourself and your family... then we should be in a good spot.

Bob
 
Hey calcapt...

That's so very nice to hear... I've heard from a lot of CAL guys they think we screwed up with CAL regarding our business plan. So it certainly is nice to hear your comments.

As always... we really do hope it continues to work. Who knows for certain. But for now... loads are up beyond management's... and quite frankly... the pilot group's expectations as well.

We'll see what happens during the slow season in the fall... but... if we keep pleasing customers like yourself and your family... then we should be in a good spot.

Bob
:yeahthat: I'm really happy to hear the loads have picked up tremendously. Glad to hear that folks who fly the branded are having a good experience.
 
Non-revving is the most useless "benefit" of airline employment. You need to get there with your psyche and marriage intact...buy tickets.

Amen to that.

Now those seats are taken up by low fare customers, wearing the wife beaters and torn jean shorts. . . /only slight :sarcasm:/
 
Non-revving is the most useless "benefit" of airline employment. You need to get there with your psyche and marriage intact...buy tickets.
Maybe for regular employees its not as usefull as they'd like, but for pilots, the ability to jumpseat is a pretty damn sweet deal.
 
True, but Non-revving and jumpseating are different.
I suppose that's true. However it seems every time I non-rev, I end up riding in the cockpit so they can get another passenger on board, so you can understand why I confused the two. :o
 
Non-revving is the most useless "benefit" of airline employment. You need to get there with your psyche and marriage intact...buy tickets.
I disagree...it depends on whose using it and how/why. If you know what your doing, it's not a big deal.
 
I routinely fly short hops like SNA-SFO on United and get first class with my girlfriend. So it ain't that bad. But I know what you mean. I think the holidays is when you should really never plan on non-revving.
 
They put you in 1st class to keep an eye on your Omar, keep you away from the center fuel tank, and out from the tight seats so you can't light your shoes on fire or anything.
 
I routinely fly short hops like SNA-SFO on United and get first class with my girlfriend. So it ain't that bad. But I know what you mean. I think the holidays is when you should really never plan on non-revving.

Is your girlfriend the one you met at the wedding?
 
I disagree...it depends on whose using it and how/why. If you know what your doing, it's not a big deal.

That really depends. With all the RJs around, you pretty much have to be watching loads like a hawk up to an hour before they board. One cancelled flight could kill your plans for the next couple of days. Your only other option is to only travel in off periods when the loads aren't that heavy, which to me seriously reduces the "benefit" of pass travel. For example, my parents wanted to fly on an airplane that I was operating, so I figured "Cool. MEM-MOB-MEM in the middle of the week should have two empty seats for them." Nope. It was oversold by 4 on a Wed in the middle of low travel season. On a DC-9, it would have been half empty (or half full depending on how you look at it I guess). But, since it's an RJ.....

Now if you're doing a lot of international routes, with a lot of seats on the a/c and not as much competition on the route, then things are a bit different. Fewer people for more seats with less economic pressure on the tickets = more open seats to non-rev. But when pilots can't make it to work on a normal basis from JAX-MEM (the flight is ALWAYS oversold, and we've ALWAYS got at least 2-3 JSers trying to get on), I'd say the benefit is pretty much nixed. Toss in an alternate, and you're more than likely bumping paying passengers b/c of weight issues, which screws the guys trying to non-rev on the next one (or two or three) flights.

In the NWA system, you don't have the option really of saying "Well, I won't take the RJ, I'll take the DC-9 or the A320." A lot of the cities ONLY get RJs. IND-FLL and IND-RSW? Those are RJ cities, and they REALLY, REALLY shouldn't be. I think IND-FLL recently got changed to a DC-9. The only reason an RJ isn't doing MEM-DEN anymore is b/c Frontier started that route, and NWA doesn't want to lose the market share. MSP-SLC is our newest RJ route that should be a mainline route. If NWA is still running an RJ from MSP-SLC in ski season, there's gonna be fights.

I don't call it a benefit if I have to get stressed out to use it, personally. If I wanna fly from MEM-MCO, there's no way to avoid that stress, even in low travel season. The back-up plan is to split the family up if there's only two seats, and I'll JS on someone to get there through ATL or IAH if I have to. If it were a "benefit" as they call it, I shouldn't have to split up my family to use it. I don't have to split them up and go to separate doctors to use my medical benefits. I haven't used my pass benefits since I've been working at PCL not because I don't want to, but simply b/c I can't get my family on any flights to places they want to go.
 
I've heard nothing but good things. Sooo ... when are you guys going to start servign New England, Chicago and Minneapolis? :D
 
I wish we were starting more destinations on the east coast too!

But I think we'll be sticking with the current cities for some time, maybe after another 6 months you'll see some slight adjusting to the schedules. Our CEO mentioned that they wouldn't bail out on certain routes (non-profitable) for some time, that they understand it takes at least 8 months to get recognized in a market.

Otherwise, ExpressJet Airlines is doing well...And there is still room to improve. But I think most of us at the company are pleased just because there were so many people (pilots, etc) saying it would be impossible to run 50 seaters as it's own airline. And the inevitable comparison to Independence....Of course we have a totally different model....but it's on a 50 seat jet so.

The reactions I see from customers is that of being happy they're on a direct flight and being really surprised to see food/beer and XM radio. Now treat the customers well and they'll come back. And while the ticket prices are competitive, we haven't (yet) resorted to $39 fares...So yes the planes are going with people who are paying real ticket prices to go.

Looking back, man am I happy that our management didn't hand those aircraft to the nice folks at RepubloTaco. And even those internal emails from the reverend stating how we are hurting the industry by going forth with this venture. Fond memories. ;-)
 
Non-revving is the most useless "benefit" of airline employment. You need to get there with your psyche and marriage intact...buy tickets.

Yeah, with mileage upgrades and RJs non-rev flying sure seemed to take a turn for the worse in the last few years I was eligible....Now with my company always flying me around full fare, flying just isn't the same, knowing what seat, class of service, when you'll leave and arrive. Frankly it is just boring anymore not sitting at the gate trying to size up the seniority of fellow SA's waiting for your flight too.

I miss it. I miss going to ORD to get to LAX from SMF. Good Times.
 
I disagree...it depends on whose using it and how/why. If you know what your doing, it's not a big deal.
:yeahthat:
Plus, all you really need is patience and flexibility. My parents did it with me and my sister for years even when we were little tots, but then again load factors weren't as high then. I flew A LOT and I can count on one hand the number of times I or my parents bought positive space.
 
I've flown on a regular ticket twice. Once was with a school group, so only once for personal travel. It was somplace I 'had' to be at. Non-reving is what you make of it. I've used it to see the world for very cheap and loved every minute of it. First class international is where its at. 5 times to Europe round trip up front.

I'd love to try an Expressjet flight. Problem is the closest place they come to here is RDU.
 
.....If you know what your doing, it's not a big deal.

....but then again load factors weren't as high then...

...Non-reving is what you make of it...



If you are trying to go to places that not everybody else wants to go then it's not a big deal. Try explaining to someone who wants to go to SEA, MCO, DEN or many other places that it's no big deal to non rev and get ready for their less-than-friendly reaction. Not many years ago, airlines used to be able to break even at 55 to 60 percent load factors. There would always be seats because the airlines didn't need to market so heavily. Today, almost 90 percent of the seats need to be filled to just break even. You can bet that the airlines are doing everything they can to fill those last few seats usually leaving the non-revs waiting for the next flight or the next day.
If you have a great deal of flexibility and a lot of patience, non revenue travel can be a good thing. If your anxiety level is pegged as you watch the loads climb on a daily basis and you absolutely have to be somewhere at a certain time, do yourself a favor and book a seat, preferrably a few weeks out. As a cruel sidenote, I booked my daughter on a flight for tomorrow from SAN to IAH several months back fearing that July loads out of SAN, which are always full, would strand her as a stand-by passenger. I just looked at the loads out of SAN tomorrow and there are TONS of empty seats throughout the day. The other non-revs travelling tomorrow have me to thank for their good fortune, as had I not booked her a seat, the flights out of SAN would all be over booked. Your welcome!:hiya:
 
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