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cypilot77

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just wondering. If somebody has Commercial license(fixed wing) with Instrument rating and he wants to get his helicopter add-on license, does he have to take an additional checkride for instrument helicopter OR he can use the same one he already has for fixed wing?
the reason im asking is that i was surfing the net and came across of somebody's resume saying:
Name LastName
Commercial pilot
Airplane single and multi engine land
Rotocraft helicopter
Instrument Airplane and Helicopter

It looks like you have to take an extra checkride but again just wondering.
thanks
 
Yup, you sure do. The instrument rating is category specific per 61.65 (a) (8).

And no, it's not an add-on, so you can't just do an approach on your checkride. Per 61.65 c (2) (i) you need at least 15 hours of instrument training in the aircraft category you want the instrument rating for.

And the pilot certificate DOES read that way "Instrument Airplane and Helicopter," but that's just the way they write it.

(And hey, all that you wrote above is exactly what my commercial pilot certificate reads... did I send you a resume or something? ;))
 
Ian J said:
Yup, you sure do. The instrument rating is category specific per 61.65 (a) (8).

And no, it's not an add-on, so you can't just do an approach on your checkride. Per 61.65 c (2) (i) you need at least 15 hours of instrument training in the aircraft category you want the instrument rating for.

And the pilot certificate DOES read that way "Instrument Airplane and Helicopter," but that's just the way they write it.

(And hey, all that you wrote above is exactly what my commercial pilot certificate reads... did I send you a resume or something? ;))
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Yeaaa..actually is yours. I have it next to my bed..:nana2:
 
FYI, when I did my basic helicopter instrument training, i alredy had several thousand fixed wing hours including many hundreds of instrument hours, and it took me probably 15 hours under the hood in a helicopter just to be able to hold the da*m thing level.

After too many hours in an airplane of leveling off, trimming to hands off, then looking down at my checklist or chart or somthing for more than 2 seconds and expecting the machine to stay somewhere around level, well within 30 degrees bank and heading, I took a lot of time to realize the helicopter ain't gonna do that. You can never take your eyes off the instruments or your hands off the controls. That was in a Bell 13. Your MMV.
 
nosehair said:
FYI, when I did my basic helicopter instrument training, i alredy had several thousand fixed wing hours including many hundreds of instrument hours, and it took me probably 15 hours under the hood in a helicopter just to be able to hold the da*m thing level.

After too many hours in an airplane of leveling off, trimming to hands off, then looking down at my checklist or chart or somthing for more than 2 seconds and expecting the machine to stay somewhere around level, well within 30 degrees bank and heading, I took a lot of time to realize the helicopter ain't gonna do that. You can never take your eyes off the instruments or your hands off the controls. That was in a Bell 13. Your MMV.
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Truth here,

I flew 1.3 actual today, Bell 206... got a few whoopsy-doos in there too...

Helo Instruments is much more labor intensive...plus I had to battle the Force Trim the whole time...:rolleyes:
 
skywestseth said:
Truth here,

I flew 1.3 actual today, Bell 206... got a few whoopsy-doos in there too...

Helo Instruments is much more labor intensive...plus I had to battle the Force Trim the whole time...:rolleyes:
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Yes. Very few helicopters are certified for single pilot IFR.
 
skywestseth said:
Truth here,

I flew 1.3 actual today, Bell 206... got a few whoopsy-doos in there too...

Helo Instruments is much more labor intensive...plus I had to battle the Force Trim the whole time...:rolleyes:
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The force trim is your friend... you must use it to your advantage... ;)
 
Blackhawk said:
Yes. Very few helicopters are certified for single pilot IFR.
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I flew a Bell 222UT, certified to fly IFR single pilot ... and NO Auto Pilot ... and as Ian said ... Force Trim is my Friend!!! Some how Bell got the 222 grandfathered in to fly single pilot IFR with no auto pilot ...

Skids are for Kids!!!
 
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