Multi engine hour requirements in regionals
- Thread starter flynkiwi
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the main thing they want is Multi (and not much of it). It doesn't seem matter if it is PIC. As for the co-pilot time....be careful most of the multi time that a pilot would have priot to going to a regional would be in a single pilot airframe. Unless of course you go with the safety pilot deal. If an airline wants Multi-PIC, they will state that.
surreal1221
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Just hope you can explain the systems of that EMB-110, cause I'm pretty certain you'll have some questions to answer at an interview about it.
WAFlyBoy
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Nice! I've never heard of the EMB-110 being used for skydiving ops. Cool gig.
My only questions is this: does the aircraft require an SIC? I believe a twin otter is about the same size (in terms of weight) and I'm pretty sure skydive operators only use one pilot in that aircraft.
My only questions is this: does the aircraft require an SIC? I believe a twin otter is about the same size (in terms of weight) and I'm pretty sure skydive operators only use one pilot in that aircraft.
TheAlchemist
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So if you have 50 hours dual received and let's say 30 PIC wouldn't make too much of a diference for the Regionals since they don't specifically require Multi PIC?
You might ask why would you have 50 hours dual received in a Multi? Well I don't have a ME rating yet and don't wanna loose the opportunity (a very good one) I have right now, specially because I'm so short on money. Man oh man I'm so broke , I go to KFC and lick other peoples fingers. I'm so broke me and my girlfriend got married for the rice. Well I could say I ain't broke, but I'm severely bent.
You might ask why would you have 50 hours dual received in a Multi? Well I don't have a ME rating yet and don't wanna loose the opportunity (a very good one) I have right now, specially because I'm so short on money. Man oh man I'm so broke , I go to KFC and lick other peoples fingers. I'm so broke me and my girlfriend got married for the rice. Well I could say I ain't broke, but I'm severely bent.
surreal1221
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Correct.
Most of the regionals are just requesting XXX amount of ME time. Now, I'm sure there are some out there that request XXX amount of PIC ME time.
It does'nt require a SIC in skydive ops, its not so much a job, but more of an opportunity to get some multi experience without paying another $10,000.
Even though a SIC is not required, you can still fly it with a SIC, correct?
TheAlchemist
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In the worst case scenario, couldn't he log as dual received? Of course the other guy needs to be an MEI.
Ralgha
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Not unless he's getting instruction. Good luck defending that one when flying skydivers at the same time.
TheAlchemist
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Good point...maybe it's hard to explain 80 hours like that...but hey maybe flynkiwi is just a sloowww learner
..just kidding
KLB
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It depends on the weight and types of operation. 12,500lbs or greater requires and SIC. But AMF operates aircraft that are greater than 12500lbs single pilot.
Don't quote me though.
surreal1221
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You should decide it.
You're the one who would potentially have to defend your actions in front of an interview board.
Food for thought.
Ethical flight hours, or unethical flight hours? Your call.
WAFlyBoy
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I think it boils down to this:
Since the airplane does not require 2 pilots for skydive ops, I don't think you can log any time as SIC.
Since only a single pilot is required, you might consider logging it as dual received IF the left seat pilot is an MEI and you are in training to learn the aircraft. If not, you may consider logging the time that you are sole manipulator of the controls as PIC AS LONG AS the aircraft does not require a type rating. (In terms of weight, I think the EMB-110 is pretty close to requiring a type rating.)
If these circumstances will not allow you to log the time legally, you might consider keeping track of the time informally so that you can explain in the future that you spent some time in the aircraft...but only as a bonus to the rest of your logged time. As for getting your "legal" multi-engine time, why not get your MEI and gain experience that way?
Since the airplane does not require 2 pilots for skydive ops, I don't think you can log any time as SIC.
Since only a single pilot is required, you might consider logging it as dual received IF the left seat pilot is an MEI and you are in training to learn the aircraft. If not, you may consider logging the time that you are sole manipulator of the controls as PIC AS LONG AS the aircraft does not require a type rating. (In terms of weight, I think the EMB-110 is pretty close to requiring a type rating.)
If these circumstances will not allow you to log the time legally, you might consider keeping track of the time informally so that you can explain in the future that you spent some time in the aircraft...but only as a bonus to the rest of your logged time. As for getting your "legal" multi-engine time, why not get your MEI and gain experience that way?
KLB
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I stand corrected! Thanks
casey
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the airlines operate under part 135 or part 121 of title 14, a whole other world of rules from what you are going to be flying.
you are going to by flying the skydive op under part 91 (i assume, correct me if im wrong). The type certificate for the EMB-110 for DAY VFR ops requires 1 pilot. Since two pilots are not required by the type certificate or the regulations you are operating under, a SIC is neither required nor authorized. You can be there, but you cannot log it as SIC.
The operator and insurance can say there needs to be 2 pilots up front, but they have no standing as far as the legality of logging flight time.
and for the guys wondering what it weighs, the TCDS says MGTOW is exactly 12,500.
aloft
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Nor do the airlines, but they seem to think they can define what is PIC and what isn't. Besides, the FAA bends to the insurance industry all the time; hence the note in the FARs allowing multi solo PIC time to be logged with an instructor aboard.