Video of Drug Smugglers Shot down

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I do not see anything wrong with the video, I personally agree with what happend to them, if it happend more often we would be better off.
 
bumblebee said:
OK then we might as well arm the police helicopters with missiles, and blow up any car running from the law. Same argument.
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I know you are just using it for an example in this situation but that would save a lot of innocent people from getting slammed.
 
darrenf said:
Sorry,

But I don't find the downing of an unarmed aircraft that poses no immediate threat awesome, I find it sickening! :mad:
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I'm with you Darren.


FiveO, as a member of law enforcement, you should represent you fellow officers in a more professional way.
 
Mariano said:
I'm with you Darren.


FiveO, as a member of law enforcement, you should represent you fellow officers in a more professional way.
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I honestly don't know one cop who would be upset about this plane going down so there is no need for me to represent them differently.

I am speaking for myself.
 
FiveO said:
I honestly don't know one cop who would be upset about this plane going down so there is no need for me to represent them differently.

I am speaking for myself.
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So you're saying that you, and all other cops you know, don't have a problem with the lack of due process, and application of the laws that you sworn to protect, and comply with.
 
Hey Five-O, wouldn't your job be easier if drugs were legal and people were free to mess themselves up without having to make criminals rich? After all, God gave us the poppy, coca and cannabis plants.

Thanks to the failed alcohol prohibition in the 1920's we still have a powerful criminal mafia in this country. The drug prohibition of today is only serving to make the same bad folks wealthy, as well as those folks in other parts of the world who'd like to kill us because we don't practice the same religion they do.
"And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man."
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That's Jesus in Mark 7:14-15. That's what I believe (not that I'm implying anyone else has to also believe).

Mike
 
bumblebee said:
This isn't the same . . . one we are at war with terrorists, the other we are shooting at criminals without due process.
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Mariano said:
So you're saying that you, and all other cops you know, don't have a problem with the lack of due process, and application of the laws that you sworn to protect, and comply with.
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What due process? Im sorry gentleman but you two are using terms for the sake of it. They arent even in our country and are in the process of invading our air space. They are subject to military law not civilian.

Listen I can respect the fact that you have an opposing opinion but please dont make stuff up just to win a debate. Episodes of Judge Judy shouldnt find their way in this conversation.

Please dont be offended, like I said healthy conversation is good - but this is about "An unauthorized plane attempting to cross our border". Nothing else. It doesnt matter whats inside. You cant make alternating laws based on whats inside - because NO ONE knows.
 
What we should do to solve the drug problem is to build large watchtowers over our cities in the US and put snipers in them. When one of these snipers sees someone dealing drugs he can shoot them.


It's all about protecting the American public.


Right?
 
MikeBurbank said:
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Listen I can respect the fact that you have an opposing opinion but please dont make stuff up just to win a debate. Episodes of Judge Judy shouldnt find their way in this conversation.

Please dont be offended, like I said healthy conversation is good - but this is about "An unauthorized plane attempting to cross our border". Nothing else. It doesnt matter whats inside. You cant make alternating laws based on whats inside - because NO ONE knows.
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Speaking of making stuff up, where did you get this from??

"An unauthorized plane attempting to cross our border"
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Mariano said:
I'm with you Darren.


FiveO, as a member of law enforcement, you should represent you fellow officers in a more professional way.
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I'm sure FiveO does his job completely within the law and in a professional manner - but I don't think it's unprofessional at all for him to suggest a more efficient way to do his job - he's only suggesting a method of dealing with the scum of the earth that better protects law abiding citizens.

If a person runs from the cops, that should be probable cause for assumption of guilt. Personally, I think all police cruisers should be designed for the purpose of knocking a fleeing vehicle off the road and/or disabling it. Too many people are injured or killed by worthless a-holes fleeing from the police. Some departments have polices of not pursuing suspect vehicles - I disagree. The only way to end the constant string of police chases that endanger innocent lives is to make sure each one of them ends violently for the criminal.
 
Mariano said:
So you're saying that you, and all other cops you know, don't have a problem with the lack of due process, and application of the laws that you sworn to protect, and comply with.
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Again, as I said with Darrenf, you're arguing a false premise. Show me where there's a lack of due process in the example where the airplane was shot down? Why do you continue to ASSume the proper rules of engagement for shooting down this aircraft weren't enforced?

Sounded like to me on the video there was English speaking technical support with "host nation" active intervention? Did I miss something there?
 
MFT1Air said:
Again, as I said with Darrenf, you're arguing a false premise. Show me where there's a lack of due process in the example where the airplane was shot down? Why do you continue to ASSume the proper rules of engagement for shooting down this aircraft weren't enforced?

Sounded like to me on the video there was English speaking technical support with "host nation" active intervention? Did I miss something there?
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Perhaps you misunderstand "Due Process"...

Procedural due process is essentially based on the concept of "fundamental fairness". As construed by the courts, it includes an individual's right to be adequately notified of charges or proceedings, and the opportunity to be heard at these proceedings. --- From Wikipedia

Where in that video did either of those two stipulations occur?
 
darrenf said:
Perhaps you misunderstand "Due Process"...

Procedural due process is essentially based on the concept of "fundamental fairness". As construed by the courts, it includes an individual's right to be adequately notified of charges or proceedings, and the opportunity to be heard at these proceedings. --- From Wikipedia

Where in that video did either of those two stipulations occur?
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:yup: THEY ARE NOT IN THIS COUNTRY... That doesnt apply to them. You do understand that dont you?
 
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