I made my decision
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eagledriver101
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No they won’t be unfortunately, because there is no housing available for families. I spoke to my wife and she is prepared for it. We’re lucky to have our Mothers that live very close, her sisters are close as well and their all very supportive, and will help her out with anything while I am gone.
Damn font! I have changed it like 5 times, and its small still wth!!
Damn font! I have changed it like 5 times, and its small still wth!!
eagledriver101
New Member
Well shoot, now I am looking at this Aviator Inc. Its 35,995 vs. 49,995. The only down fall to Aviator would be the location which is F.L, I live in Utah so Phoenix A.Z was a nice location, but I mite consider F.L. This makes me so mad…
Should I flip a coin and go with it??
Should I flip a coin and go with it??
TheWife
New Member
I don't know if you already have one or had thought of this, but try to get a webcam so you can have some contact w/ your family! It was very hard for my kids to not see daddy while he was gone, and that was only 3 days. He was very surprised at how hard it is to be away from family, he thought it wouldn't be a big deal but it had a bigger impact on him than he thought.
TheWife
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There are more out there besides Ari-Ben as well. If you found ONE place that's cheaper, you know there are more. We had looked at that place, Pan Am, and Flight Safety, (and DCA for the fun of it) and decided on Flight Safety, only at the time we could not get our house to sell fast enough to be able to move there. That was back when he was about to work on commercial and instrument.
TheWife
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Something else to keep in mind, you said you wanted to instruct for 2 years after you are done w/ your ratings. Many places will not hire you if you didn't train there. I called every place in SL and Heber and UT County areas and none were interested in hiring a CFI that didn't work there. So where are you planning on instructing? If you would stay at the place you train, to instruct, you may want to pay the extra $10K to go to ATP so your family is close enough to drive down for a visit. If you went to Ari-Ben and would instruct there, especially if it was 2 years, then you may want to factor in the cost of moving your family there, cause mom or no mom, your wife isn't going to be hip with 2+ years w/o you!
eagledriver101
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Ha ha I am sure its going be anything but easy, I just had a new baby 5 weeks, ago my 4 year old is daddy’s little boy, he will take it very hard. And yes, I have laptop, and we will webcam back and forth.
eagledriver101
New Member
For now I guess I am still deciding on ATP. I’ll just work on getting ready, studying, and learning everything I can about CFI/II/ME/IFR stuff I can.
staplegun
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murphfly
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Hey man Im just helping my man eagledriver out and trying to change the image that people on here view ATP. The alchemist is over there talking about we don't know how to fly steam guages, without gps, and other bs like that. Thats just plain ignorance. Go to the atp website and take a look at the seminole cockpit and do some research next time before you open your mouth.The people here in VGT were laughin their butt off reading his stuff. My instructor had some choice words i can't repeat.
I was just making it clear that the 50k you spend at ATP does not go solely for flight training. It also pays for the environment you train in. Totally focused. Immersion as many call it. It pays for your housing, your FAA books(for those who don't want to print 5 million pages of the FAA website or read for hours off a computer screen like others have mentioned) PTS, taxi, rental car, airline tickets etc. Cross the USA cross countries? You betcha, thats what I call experience. To me the 50k is justified economically.
2ndly, ATP will get you to the airlines the fastest hands down. They have no competition in that regard. I believe the time you say going at that speed is well worth the investment. Anything you do in life that is accelerated will cost you more. Overnight shipping or ground? Airline or Amtrak? V8 or V6 on the new car? AMD 3000+ processor or 3500+? Walmart or Safeway for groceries? Shall I go on?
3rd, going to ATP does not make you a great pilot. I've seen two poorly prepared pilots sent home this week. I see pilots here who are naturals and bright. I still see others who are hanging off the edge of the cliff by their fingernails. You control how good of a pilot you become. Go check the ATP forums, I have experienced what is happening to unprepared 90 dayers and Im trying to help those who are joining the program to be sucessful. Not everybody can handle this type of training. I mean this stuff comes at you REALLY FAST! The bus will leave real quick if you don't get on early, and there is little hope for recovery then. I even said if you are not good at ultra fast paced learning do not come to ATP. Great pilots come out of FBOs and ATP there is no doubt about that because that individual controls their pilot destiny with proper study skills and preparation. The difference is that ATP does it faster. There you have it ladies and gentlemen, Im not saying ATP is better or worse than your local FBO, Im just saying they train you significantly faster for a specific purpose, the airlines, and they maintain a quality training environment doing it. In fact, the rate at which we train here is might be a fast as one could possibly go. Whether or not it is worth the extra money, its up to you. It sure is worth it to me.
I hope ATP gets you done quick so you have less time to be on this forum.
You know it's bad when I meet someone I don't know and we get to talking about Jetcareers and he says he can't stand a guy named 777forever that posts on the site. You're doing some really great networking and making many friends. The only thing I wonder is what it's going to be like in the cockpit when your CA is someone you insulted on here and he/she finds out who you are...
:banghead:
Captain_Bob
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I have personally found that many of those with the biggest bite on here... are typically really nice folks in person.
Don't judge folks until you can look them in the eye... and buy them a beer in person...
Bob
Don't judge folks until you can look them in the eye... and buy them a beer in person...
Bob
Trip7
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if they don't like the fact that I like to train at a fast pace and feel fine with the money I spent on training, too bad, I have the right to my opinion. I have more friends then enemies on this site. people at sosu knew my views, how many people hated me? thanks for trying.
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if they don't like the fact that I like to train at a fast pace and feel fine with the money I spent on training, too bad, I have the right to my opinion. I have more friends then enemies on this site. people at sosu knew my views, how many people hated me? thanks for trying.
Qgar
New Member
I have personally found that many of those with the biggest bite on here... are typically really nice folks in person.
Don't judge folks until you can look them in the eye... and buy them a beer in person...
Bob
How adorable are you!
You are always the voice of reason, with never a bad word to say about anyone. How do you do it?! 
My only queston is, why aren't you a moderator? 
TheWife
New Member
:yeahthat: (And I'm not a moderator by the way, incase there was any confusion after the previous mention. Everyone is always confusing me and Amber.)How adorable are you!
Qgar
New Member
Yeah, I caught that mistake, but kept my big mouth shut, in case I missed an announcement about you!! LOL :laff::laff:
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
How adorable are you!
I agree Bob would make a good moderator!
murphfly
Well-Known Member
I have personally found that many of those with the biggest bite on here... are typically really nice folks in person.
Don't judge folks until you can look them in the eye... and buy them a beer in person...
Bob
I do know him. And for some reason he is always so defensive but I guess I can still buy him a beer...
murphfly
Well-Known Member
Hey good luck eagledriver! Just remember to work hard and take study breaks. 90 days isn't that long of a time to learn all of that info. Make sure you go out and rent an airplane every now and then, just to remind yourself that you love flying. Sometimes that feeling can be lost...Happy skies!
Trip7
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yeah you do, and we never through shots at each other in school but you do over the internet because others are blowing my views out of porportion. Anyways, I got no hard feelings.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Hey man. Never met you and I think that you're a cool guy. Hope to meet up with whenever I get to Texas.
