Prerequisites for the 90 day program

jordan747_400

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Ill be graduating from my university by this time next year and am planning on starting the 90 day program at ATP immediately afterwards. By then I will have my 4 year degree, my PPL, and a little bit of cross country time. What I would really like to know is if ATP has any certain hour requirements for applicants for the 90 day program. Will I need a certain number of total time or cross country hours? Anything else I will need to accomplish before starting at ATP? I couldn't seem to find an answer on their website but if I've missed it I'd appreciate it if someone pointed me in the right direction.

Thanks!
 
Prerequisites for the ACPP program:
allatps.com said:
  • Private Pilot Certificate
  • 85 Hours Total Time
    • 25 Hours Cross-Country PIC Time
  • First Class Medical Certificate
  • 2 Years of College or Equivalent Work Experience
  • Must be a U.S. Citizen
These prerequisites must be met prior to the class start date, if not prior to scheduling.


About the Flight Time Requirements

Many students have a Private Pilot Certificate, but have less than 85 hours total time and 25 hours cross-country PIC time required to enter the Airline Career Pilot Program. Depending on schedule and aircraft availability, ATP may be able to provide a customized program for students to attain these minimum requirements in GPS-equipped Cessna 172s.
 
Do they count helicopter time towards the 85 hours? I still need my fixed wing PPL, but have loads of rotary wing time?
 
Do they count helicopter time towards the 85 hours? I still need my fixed wing PPL, but have loads of rotary wing time?

You don't need a fixed wing PPL - since you already have a commercial rotorcraft, you can add-on a fixed wing commercial and instrument. You already meet the TT requirement of 250 hours and some of the other requirements as well. See below what you need where I bolded.

Sec. 61.129

Aeronautical experience.

(a) For an airplane single-engine rating. Except as provided in paragraph (i) of this section, a person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category and single-engine class rating must log at least 250 hours of flight time as a pilot that consists of at least:
(1) 100 hours in powered aircraft, of which 50 hours must be in airplanes.
(2) 100 hours of pilot-in-command flight time, which includes at least--
(i) 50 hours in airplanes; and
(ii) 50 hours in cross-country flight of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes.
(3) 20 hours of training on the areas of operation listed in Sec. 61.127(b)(1) of this part that includes at least--
(i) 10 hours of instrument training of which at least 5 hours must be in a single-engine airplane;
(ii) 10 hours of training in an airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, or is turbine-powered, or for an applicant seeking a single-engine seaplane rating, 10 hours of training in a seaplane that has flaps and a controllable pitch propeller;
(iii) One cross-country flight of at least 2 hours in a single-engine airplane in day VFR conditions, consisting of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure;
(iv) One cross-country flight of at least 2 hours in a single-engine airplane in night VFR conditions, consisting of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(v) 3 hours in a single-engine airplane in preparation for the practical test within the 60-day period preceding the date of the test.
(4) 10 hours of solo flight in a single-engine airplane on the areas of operation listed in Sec. 61.127(b)(1) of this part, which includes at least--
(i) One cross-country flight of not less than 300 nautical miles total distance, with landings at a minimum of three points, one of which is a straight-line distance of at least 250 nautical miles from the original departure point. However, if this requirement is being met in Hawaii, the longest segment need only have a straight-line distance of at least 150 nautical miles; and
(ii) 5 hours in night VFR conditions with 10 takeoffs and 10 landings (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport with an operating control tower.

To add on an airplane instrument you need:

(d) Aeronautical experience. A person who applies for an instrument rating must have logged the following:
(1) At least 50 hours of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes for an instrument -- airplane rating; and (you'll get this doing the commercial airplane add-on)
(2) A total of 40 hours of actual or simulated instrument time on the areas of operation of this section, to include--You should have this already
(i) At least 15 hours of instrument flight training from an authorized instructor in the aircraft category for which the instrument rating is sought;
(ii) At least 3 hours of instrument training that is appropriate to the instrument rating sought from an authorized instructor in preparation for the practical test within the 60 days preceding the date of the test;
(iii) For an instrument -- airplane rating, instrument training on cross-country flight procedures specific to airplanes that includes at least one cross-country flight in an airplane that is performed under IFR, and consists of--
(A) A distance of at least 250 nautical miles along airways or ATC-directed routing;
(B) An instrument approach at each airport; and
(C) Three different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems;

Does heli time count towards the 250 hours needed for a commercial license at a part 61 school?

-Rob

Yes, just not for the parts that specifically say "airplane."
 
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