Busted checkrides?

Killtron2000 said:
This last one I misjudged the power off glide and emergency decent and ended up overshooting the field. I thought the examiner was fair, he said he also wanted to see me do a soft field again since he said it was a little flat but not terrible.
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Was that the comm? I'm taking that one in a couple of weeks and am a little nervous. I'll be doing everything in about a week with a CFI beforehand... I'm good on oral stuff, but I'll be in a strange airplane (Turbo Arrow IV) and am not sure what to expect with the maneuvers.
 
wrxpilot said:
Was that the comm? I'm taking that one in a couple of weeks and am a little nervous. I'll be doing everything in about a week with a CFI beforehand... I'm good on oral stuff, but I'll be in a strange airplane (Turbo Arrow IV) and am not sure what to expect with the maneuvers.
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The new maneuvers are difficult at first but most people I talked to about it had trouble with them and then it just all came together one day. That's how it was for me too I kind of pointed the airplane around to make it look like the pictures at first and then it just clicked one lesson and I could do them fine.
 
There seems to be a trend, bust a checkride and you can fly for ExpressJet. I was always told if you bust a Part 141/142 vs. 61 its not so bad because they are only considered stage checks instead of official TCE Checks. Anybody else heard this before?
 
In part 141 schools like UND only the final stage check for your certificate count as a check ride correct?
 
Italianaviator said:
There seems to be a trend, bust a checkride and you can fly for ExpressJet. I was always told if you bust a Part 141/142 vs. 61 its not so bad because they are only considered stage checks instead of official TCE Checks. Anybody else heard this before?
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I'd think busting a part 141 would be a lot harder than a part 61... Don't you think??
 
I can think of a handful of people off the top of my head who are degree free, failed a few checkrides while getting the ratings, and are now regional pilots. I agree, it will come up in the interview, It did in both of mine. Be prepared with an intelligent answer as to why it happened.

When you do get to that first 121 or 135 interview, if the rest of your interview performance is good and you don't give off a Forrest Gump vibe; I certainly don't think it will put a bullet through the head of your future job chances.

Failing checkrides once you are employed 121 or 135 seems more critical to me.
 
A part 61 and 141 Checkride are the same unless your school has in house examinations....then it can get tough depending on what the school wants to set its standard too.
 
I failed my Private checkride at Comair. Since the testing was done in-house, I don't think it went against my FAA record, but I don't really care. I haven't failed a ride since, and I know why I failed it.
 
Champcar said:
A part 61 and 141 Checkride are the same unless your school has in house examinations....then it can get tough depending on what the school wants to set its standard too.
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UND has 3 stage checks for your private.

Lesson 14
Lesson 26
Lesson 30 Final Stage

Am I correct to say that only the final stage check would count as busting a check ride?
 
ZUKO said:
UND has 3 stage checks for your private.

Lesson 14
Lesson 26
Lesson 30 Final Stage

Am I correct to say that only the final stage check would count as busting a check ride?
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Must be since you have in house examinations.

At both of the 141 schools I went to we didn't have in house examinations. So I had to do a final stage check and then a ride with a DPE.
 
Champcar said:
Must be since you have in house examinations.

At both of the 141 schools I went to we didn't have in house examinations. So I had to do a final stage check and then a ride with a DPE.
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Yeah its alright. The problem is that having 3 stage checks slows down your training a lot because sometimes the wait for the stage check pilots put you a week back.
 
meritflyer said:
BS BS BS!!!

I went to school with a guy who busted every checkride he ever took. He was notorious at my flight school. Guy busted 7 checkrides and just got hired by Express Jet without them even battin' an eye at his rides.

People bust checkrides. No big deal. Learn from it and move on.
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If they could teach a monkey to fly, Express would hire it as long as it stapled its paperwork in the right order. They just took one of my co-workers who has 2 seatbelt violations in the last 3 months!! And that's in addition to a few other things that makes me question the sanity of anyone who'd actually pay this guy operate a multi-million dollar piece of machinery, let alone people's lives. I really thought only a few years of a clean driving record was the only way he'd be able to get hired by anyone. Guess I was wrong.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying XJet pilots are bad pilots, cause while we're on the topic of busted checkrides, I also know of a few pretty good pilots who washed out of their training. They do have high standards...once you get in. So, it seems that they'll hire anything with 2 arms, two legs, 600 hours, and the ability to staple paper together, but they only keep the really good pilots.
 
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