What happens during flight?

Let me think. Read the zoo york times, ate a first class meal, laughed with the captain about how my sister is probably scared to death that her little brother is flying the airplane. cursed a center or two because I had a tight connection for my commuter flight and asked the captain about harriers and his stint as a blue angel.
 
I'll look into that.

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I think it was "ICS". Not sure if the same thing exists for the g1000 though.
 
Oh I forgot!

I also sing to myself. Since I don't have an Ipod....I become the Ipod!:D Any request?
 
Hey everyone,

I don't know if this has been posted but I couldn't find it anywhere. I was just curious as to what goes on during mid-flight when autopilot is engaged. Is it mostly just watching the screens and scenery. Could some provide what a typical flight consists from beginning to end. Thanks.

I'll address the mid-flight portion. It begins at a point called "Top of Climb" and ends at a point called "Top of Descent". Once you level off at cruise altitude you should recheck your fuel on board versus planned fuel at Top of Climb. If you had an extended low altitude level-off...it's possible you could be low on your planned fuel. If not...it gives you a baseline measurement concerning under/over fuel burns enroute as you monitor your fuel progress. Check the pressurization system and air conditioning....otherwise the flight attendants will be calling up complaining about the temperature. Give a cursory check to other engine instrumentation. Ensure the airplane is trimmed properly. If the autopilot was used for the climb...ensure the airplane is properly trimmed at cruise.

Monitor the actual wind and weather conditions versus the forecast weather. Make company requested weather and position reports at the designated checkpoints. Ensure your ETA is accurate and evaluate any discrepancies.

Monitor RVSM requirements each hour.

Repeat the above throughout the flight.

If leaving Class I navigation...do an nav accuracy check, HF radio check.

Make an announcement to the passenger cabin, welcoming everyone aboard. (Coordinate this with the flight attendants....so you know when the movie starts....you don't really want to interrupt the movie. I will, however. If I want to say something I don't really care about the movie.)

Get the logbook up to date. Enter any discrepancies noted and inform company maintenance via airborne communications.


From the flight attendants, find out if there are any passenger assistance issues and inform the destination station via airborne communications.

Evaluate step climb altitudes. Will a higher altitude give you a better fuel burn? Evaluate turbulence reports. Factor passenger comfort into step climb decisions.

Counter fatigue, boredom and monotony. I do this by keeping my brain engaged however I can. Eat a meal. Stay hydrated. Learn and enjoy the beautiful topography the country and the world have to offer. Also, I always want to know where to go if the flight attendants call up and say "we're on fire". I want to be on the ground in 11 minutes (Statistics say if you are on the ground in 11 you'll live. If not...you'll die.) One leg each 4 day trip I'll pull out a manual and read up on a system. Print out the weather synopsis before the trip. Learn how the weather forms by and around these systems. Over the years...it becomes fascinating how predictable and unpredictable each weather system can be.

Pull up the latest destination weather. Plan the descent using the arrival routing information. Brief the arrival, approach, landing, and taxi to the gate information. (This is all done a couple hundred miles from the destination while still at cruise altitude.)

Make a passenger announcement stating that we're joining the arrival to the airport with an ETA and Wx info. Thank them for flying with us.

Top of Descent.

I think this is more of what you were looking for. I don't see any IPods...I think the IPod people are at the regionals.
 
I'll address the mid-flight portion. It begins at a point called "Top of Climb" and ends at a point called "Top of Descent". Once you level off at cruise altitude you should recheck your fuel on board versus planned fuel at Top of Climb. If you had an extended low altitude level-off...it's possible you could be low on your planned fuel. If not...it gives you a baseline measurement concerning under/over fuel burns enroute as you monitor your fuel progress. Check the pressurization system and air conditioning....otherwise the flight attendants will be calling up complaining about the temperature. Give a cursory check to other engine instrumentation. Ensure the airplane is trimmed properly. If the autopilot was used for the climb...ensure the airplane is properly trimmed at cruise.

Monitor the actual wind and weather conditions versus the forecast weather. Make company requested weather and position reports at the designated checkpoints. Ensure your ETA is accurate and evaluate any discrepancies.

Monitor RVSM requirements each hour.

Repeat the above throughout the flight.

If leaving Class I navigation...do an nav accuracy check, HF radio check.

Make an announcement to the passenger cabin, welcoming everyone aboard. (Coordinate this with the flight attendants....so you know when the movie starts....you don't really want to interrupt the movie. I will, however. If I want to say something I don't really care about the movie.)

Get the logbook up to date. Enter any discrepancies noted and inform company maintenance via airborne communications.


From the flight attendants, find out if there are any passenger assistance issues and inform the destination station via airborne communications.

Evaluate step climb altitudes. Will a higher altitude give you a better fuel burn? Evaluate turbulence reports. Factor passenger comfort into step climb decisions.

Counter fatigue, boredom and monotony. I do this by keeping my brain engaged however I can. Eat a meal. Stay hydrated. Learn and enjoy the beautiful topography the country and the world have to offer. Also, I always want to know where to go if the flight attendants call up and say "we're on fire". I want to be on the ground in 11 minutes (Statistics say if you are on the ground in 11 you'll live. If not...you'll die.) One leg each 4 day trip I'll pull out a manual and read up on a system. Print out the weather synopsis before the trip. Learn how the weather forms by and around these systems. Over the years...it becomes fascinating how predictable and unpredictable each weather system can be.

Pull up the latest destination weather. Plan the descent using the arrival routing information. Brief the arrival, approach, landing, and taxi to the gate information. (This is all done a couple hundred miles from the destination while still at cruise altitude.)

Make a passenger announcement stating that we're joining the arrival to the airport with an ETA and Wx info. Thank them for flying with us.

Top of Descent.

I think this is more of what you were looking for. I don't see any IPods...I think the IPod people are at the regionals.

Very Well Said :eek:
 
I'll address the mid-flight portion. It begins at a point called "Top of Climb" and ends at a point called "Top of Descent". Once you level off at cruise altitude you should recheck your fuel on board versus planned fuel at Top of Climb. If you had an extended low altitude level-off...it's possible you could be low on your planned fuel. If not...it gives you a baseline measurement concerning under/over fuel burns enroute as you monitor your fuel progress. Check the pressurization system and air conditioning....otherwise the flight attendants will be calling up complaining about the temperature. Give a cursory check to other engine instrumentation. Ensure the airplane is trimmed properly. If the autopilot was used for the climb...ensure the airplane is properly trimmed at cruise.

Monitor the actual wind and weather conditions versus the forecast weather. Make company requested weather and position reports at the designated checkpoints. Ensure your ETA is accurate and evaluate any discrepancies.

Monitor RVSM requirements each hour.

Repeat the above throughout the flight.

If leaving Class I navigation...do an nav accuracy check, HF radio check.

Make an announcement to the passenger cabin, welcoming everyone aboard. (Coordinate this with the flight attendants....so you know when the movie starts....you don't really want to interrupt the movie. I will, however. If I want to say something I don't really care about the movie.)

Get the logbook up to date. Enter any discrepancies noted and inform company maintenance via airborne communications.


From the flight attendants, find out if there are any passenger assistance issues and inform the destination station via airborne communications.

Evaluate step climb altitudes. Will a higher altitude give you a better fuel burn? Evaluate turbulence reports. Factor passenger comfort into step climb decisions.

Counter fatigue, boredom and monotony. I do this by keeping my brain engaged however I can. Eat a meal. Stay hydrated. Learn and enjoy the beautiful topography the country and the world have to offer. Also, I always want to know where to go if the flight attendants call up and say "we're on fire". I want to be on the ground in 11 minutes (Statistics say if you are on the ground in 11 you'll live. If not...you'll die.) One leg each 4 day trip I'll pull out a manual and read up on a system. Print out the weather synopsis before the trip. Learn how the weather forms by and around these systems. Over the years...it becomes fascinating how predictable and unpredictable each weather system can be.

Pull up the latest destination weather. Plan the descent using the arrival routing information. Brief the arrival, approach, landing, and taxi to the gate information. (This is all done a couple hundred miles from the destination while still at cruise altitude.)

Make a passenger announcement stating that we're joining the arrival to the airport with an ETA and Wx info. Thank them for flying with us.

Top of Descent.

I think this is more of what you were looking for. I don't see any IPods...I think the IPod people are at the regionals.

Ahh, the bliss of FE equipped airplanes and hauling boxes...
 
I haven't seen any iPods either.

No wonder there are so many missed radio calls these days. Call me a square but that's about as gay as spiking your hair and walking around with your sunglasses on your forehead in the terminal.
 
I'll be the first to agree with both of you on the ipod issue. Keep it in the flight bag, and utilize it when outside of the cockpit.
 
I don't see any IPods...I think the IPod people are at the regionals.

Thanks for the very interesting and informative cruise-flight breakdown.

However, I would like to bring up another point based on your comment above.

Is it possible that you see few Ipods where you are because you fly with a much older pilot group? Perhaps these people have some technology aversion and don't own a laptop or Ipod. This group was raised w/ black and white TV's that you had to physically get up and change the channels on....no remotes. Also, they were around when that new-fangled radio called FM was first being broadcast. As a result, they probably don't bother w/ portable music, etc....

Whereas, at the regional level, you have a much younger pilot group (overall) that was raised on modern technologies like personal computers, portable music devices and satellite radio, etc.... As a result, this group is much more likely to utilize these technologies when it's possible.

I don't know if this is accurate or even close. It's just a suggestion as to why you might see items like Ipods at the regional level now. I'd venture to guess it might be more prevelent at the majors in a few years as many of the more senior people retire and the younger pilot group fills those slots.


What do you think?
 
I'll be the first to agree with both of you on the ipod issue. Keep it in the flight bag, and utilize it when outside of the cockpit.
I use my "ipodlike" device sometimes when I'm up there. When you fly single pilot, on the same route, same plane, and the weather is severe clear it can get pretty boring up there. I'll usually click it on just to pass the time. I had a nice 4 hour leg from Charlotte to St. Louis the other day and that MP3 player was a big help to knock of the miles.
Besides that I'll usually print out some article and read that or pick up a newspaper from a different city and read the news from a different perspective. Sunday is my study day. I'll go over my Initial binder, SOPs, GOM, and AFM just to keep somewhat familiar in time for my checkrides.
 
Thanks for the very interesting and informative cruise-flight breakdown.

However, I would like to bring up another point based on your comment above.

Is it possible that you see few Ipods where you are because you fly with a much older pilot group? Perhaps these people have some technology aversion and don't own a laptop or Ipod. This group was raised w/ black and white TV's that you had to physically get up and change the channels on....no remotes. Also, they were around when that new-fangled radio called FM was first being broadcast. As a result, they probably don't bother w/ portable music, etc....

Whereas, at the regional level, you have a much younger pilot group (overall) that was raised on modern technologies like personal computers, portable music devices and satellite radio, etc.... As a result, this group is much more likely to utilize these technologies when it's possible.

I don't know if this is accurate or even close. It's just a suggestion as to why you might see items like Ipods at the regional level now. I'd venture to guess it might be more prevelent at the majors in a few years as many of the more senior people retire and the younger pilot group fills those slots.


What do you think?


I think you are right. I teach math and science part time in the local high schools. The kids can't get along without their Ipods. The teachers let them listen while they do assignments and homework during class time. I think this is terrible and I don't allow it while I'm in the classroom. It is probably translating over into the professional environment.

Also, I've worked at regionals and majors. There are many awesome, professional pilots at the regionals. However, the two majors I've worked for is night and day difference in overall professionalism versus the regionals. The majors have a much more businesslike attitude. The regionals seem a little more "high schoolish" and cliquish.
 
B767Driver offered his perspective from a major airline heavy-driver, so let me offer one from the regional side as well. It is a bit different, not only because we fly smaller tubes but also because we jump puddles, not ponds.

Similar to B767Driver, I consider the time between TOC and TOD as "cruise" time. Since we do not have VNAV or autothrottles, we need to be very vigilant about our climb profiles, speeds, and descents. It is easy to get slow in vertical speed mode in the climb, or overspeed the airplane and cause an uncomfortable ride in descent (the airplane pitches very authoritatively to keep from overspeeding). I think it is very important to stay attentive to the airplane during these phases of flight.

Now, in cruise, things do change a bit. We fly mostly in RVSM airspace, and if we are not then it means a short leg where you are pretty busy anyway. By being in RVSM airspace (above FL290), it is recommended we use the autopilot, so we do. This changes the flight from a "flying" phase to a more "monitoring" phase. However, even though we are monitoring the autopilot and not actually "flying," there are still many things we need to do and stay attentive of.

At TOC, I also normally check the fuel on-board against the figures in the flight plan. I do this to see if we may have gotten behind or ahead of our fuel numbers due to a higher-than-normal climb, or a step climb that burned more fuel. This is critical for two reasons: One, if we burned less gas, it might mean we are too heavy for landing. Two, if we burned more gas, it might mean we are getting close to our reserve fuel for the destination or alternate airports. They plan us that tight. Often. Checking this early helps us formulate a plan to either climb or descent to possibly burn or save gas. I'm a "requester," so I'll often look for shortcuts that save us time and gas, so figuring out early that we might need a shortcut means I'll become a pain in the ass to ATC much earlier in the flight.

After checking the TOC fuel numbers, and setting cruise thrust fuel flow settings, that is my signal to consider letting the people up. If it is expected to be fairly smooth, we'll let them up. I hate commuting when the seatbelt sign is on the whole flight. It makes me feel like the crew forgot about us. If it is going to be bumpy, we'll still make a PA telling the passengers this. Two reasons: Then they know we didn't forget about them, and if they get up (they will, trust me) at least they are fairly aware it will be a rough ride.

As a Captain now, it is my responsibility to fill out the aircraft logbook each leg, putting our name, employee number, and departure/destination airports on the page. I find after getting things set up for cruise, this is a good time to fill out everything but the destination, in case we divert. This means it is done early, so that on the ground when things are busy, it is one less thing I need to do. When you are running the parking checklist, getting things set up for the next crew, packing your flight kit, putting away charts, etc., one less task is a good thing.

So after "cruising up", letting the passengers free, filling out the logbook, I'll now normally pick up the arrival ATIS (if they have D-ATIS) or a METAR through ACARS. This will help tell us what runways they are using, what weather to expect, and if it may be bumpy on descent and arrival to let the flight attendant know to clean up early. We also send off and "in-range" message, to get gate information for our flight, and information for where the airplane goes next and where we go next. Just another thing to help us plan. After getting the weather, I'll swap my departure airport charts for my arrival airport charts. I have an interesting way of sorting my charts, so I'll pull them out and "sort" them in the way I expect things to flow. Then we'll begin programming the FMS for the expected crossing altitudes, expected approach, NAVAIDs, operations frequencies, etc.. I like to get these things done early, so we are not heads down searching for a ramp or ops frequency on descent or on the ground. I also like to review the 10-9 chart (taxi diagram) to get an idea of how things will look to me when we clear the runway. This helps me avoid going the wrong direction, or having to stop and look at the chart to figure out where the heck I am after we've landed.

Obviously, you can see this takes up a lot of time. If this was an hour-long flight, this just ate up the whole cruise time and maybe some of the early descent. If it is a two-hour or longer flight, then I'll have some time to kick back, maybe drink a cup of coffee, look out the window, or just chat it up with my First Officer. I enjoy talking with my crews, learning where they are from, their background in flying, etc., because I like talking to people. If they aren't talkative, then maybe I'll crack a book. I don't like reading in the cockpit much though. I definitely don't break out iPods, or read the paper. I find a newspaper is too big and cumbersome, and it blocks my view of the instruments. More often than not, I'll actually pull out a manual and review some procedure or system that I'm lacking on. I figure I'm at work, I'll use that time to review, so when I'm at home I can do all the stuff I really want to do! Professional pilots need to continuously study, and at least at work I can somewhat justify to the Chief Pilot that I was reading a manual in flight.

Also, after jumpseating with a great crew out to PHX one morning, I have taken up the habit of having my enroute chart out and manually backing up our route with VORs. We have an NAV pointer overlay on the HSI, and backing up the FMS routing with the VOR airway seems very helpful at ensuring we do not get off course. It also helps me stay aware of our position over the country, so should something occur where we need to land, we'll know where to go. Not to mention it has helped me learn the various VOR identifiers, so when ATC says "cleared direct Omaha" we go to OVR, not OMA in Bosnia.

So that pretty much takes you through the "boring" time of cruise as a regional pilot. Shorter legs, smaller tubes, but the same stuff really.
 
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Also, after jumpseating with a great crew out to PHX on morning, I have taken up the habit of having my enroute chart out and manually backing up our route with VORs. .

That's a great point. I have my charts out for a slightly different reason. It's the only place that has a ready reference for the grid mora. If I need to go down quick...I have a good idea of how low I can go.

Some newer GPWS have this in the map display....but we don't that neat stuff.
 
When you fly single pilot, on the same route, same plane, and the weather is severe clear it can get pretty boring up there.

Besides that I'll usually print out some article and read that or pick up a newspaper from a different city and read the news from a different perspective. Sunday is my study day. I'll go over my Initial binder, SOPs, GOM, and AFM just to keep somewhat familiar in time for my checkrides.

Please don't tell us you are flying single pilot and READING THE PAPER!!!!
 
Yeah but you also have to monitor which airspace your flying over to right ? Like warning areas, MOA's , restricted areas ?
 
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